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WTF are you on about "occupying nation"
England is occupying part of Ireland. I have no personal opinion about this, or links to Ireland, but it seems pretty obvious to anyone looking at it from the outside.
England?
Twitter 'troll' to pay six-figure sum
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#132The title isn't a reasonable one: the very prejudicial descriptor 'troll' is language from lawyers from one side of a legal dispute. The BBC isn't credibly a neutral arbiter, because the litigant is one of their presenters. This is not taking any position on the underlying dispute (which is apparently about Northern Ireland politics [0]), nor is it a criticism of or specific to the BBC. [0] This Reddit discussion (pr…
The word 'troll' is quoted.
For mainstream news publications, headlines are generally designed to be technically neutral but still as attention-grabbing as possible. After all, every publication needs to get readers to click.
So this is just standard practice, the BBC isn't doing anything journalists with high standards consider to be wrong.
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#133Disclaimer: I have no idea who Stephen Nolan is, and I'm not aware of the context. The reaction is based solely on the article. I get a feeling that the light is only being shed on the side of the story which makes the "victim" look like an alpha male. All this "message" and "tracing" crap. I wonder how this "troll" was "traced". Specially trained Twitter-hound? You don't just "trace" people on the internet. They way…
> I wonder how this "troll" was "traced". Specially trained Twitter-hound? You don't just "trace" people on the internet. Look up Kurt Eichenwald. He found and sued an anonymous Twitter troll who send him a GIF "you deserve a seizure" in 2017. I'm not sure exactly how, I think the authorities helped him, so Twitter just might've gave them the information.
So for anyone else that found that completely odd, the whole story is that he sued someone who sent him a DM with a gif that purposefully triggered his epilepsy and caused him to seize. The words "you deserve a seizure" were definitely not the basis of the suit.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There are also several (known) political mercenaries who operate bot farms specifically to attack leftists and signal boost those attacks to astroturf popularity. You mean harassers and bullies from hexbear AKA chapotraphouse who target radical feminists? Yes, it's leftists attacking women who disagree with them.
I was primarily referring to Sally Albright (the example with the most publicly available evidence). She is a political mercenary who was outed as operating a large bot farm using identities of people who died. Funded by ShareBlue to attack people critical of HRC, then Biden. Arguably, she created the "donut twitter" faction - which grew past the bot accounts she controlled. Though I'm sure this tactic is used by eve…
Saying shareblue/CTR, a leftist astroturf organization, is "attacking leftists" is incredibly misleading. They attack towards both sides of the political spectrum from themselves, but there's much more to the right of them than these is to the left.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
WTF are you on about "occupying nation"
England is occupying part of Ireland. I have no personal opinion about this, or links to Ireland, but it seems pretty obvious to anyone looking at it from the outside.
They would be wrong then. The great majority of unionist are of Scottish descent and have been in Norther Ireland from the 1600s.
FYI the term "unionist" refers to those in NI who want the union with Britain to be maintained, not as someone looking in from outside would assume those who want a union with Southern Ireland. Those are "nationalists".
Re: Twitter 'troll' to pay six-figure sum
#136Not many people have 6 figures lying around to pay... I think most regular people, faced with the offer of a 6 figure settlement, would probably fight it to the bitter end in court, before claiming bankruptcy. I wonder if this might have been someone famous for whom 6 figures is expensive but not worth the PR damage?
> I wonder if this might have been someone famous for whom 6 figures is expensive but not worth the PR damage?
This is in Northern Ireland - being outed for a political disagreement on Irish Nationalism vs Unionist sentiment goes way beyond mere "PR damage" and may easily threaten life and limb. (see The IRA, The Troubles, Good Friday Agreement, and the current debate of the GFA brought on by Brexit)
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#137Disclaimer: I have no idea who Stephen Nolan is, and I'm not aware of the context. The reaction is based solely on the article. I get a feeling that the light is only being shed on the side of the story which makes the "victim" look like an alpha male. All this "message" and "tracing" crap. I wonder how this "troll" was "traced". Specially trained Twitter-hound? You don't just "trace" people on the internet. They way…
> I wonder how this "troll" was "traced". Specially trained Twitter-hound? You don't just "trace" people on the internet. Look up Kurt Eichenwald. He found and sued an anonymous Twitter troll who send him a GIF "you deserve a seizure" in 2017. I'm not sure exactly how, I think the authorities helped him, so Twitter just might've gave them the information.
Good point. That's possible and could've made the things easier. I tend to forget that authorities can request personal information from companies (and that the companies don't mind sharing most of the time).
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
England is occupying part of Ireland. I have no personal opinion about this, or links to Ireland, but it seems pretty obvious to anyone looking at it from the outside.
England?
If you want them to say United Kingdom, then say it. Obscure one word comments aren't useful or transparent.
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#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are also several (known) political mercenaries who operate bot farms specifically to attack leftists and signal boost those attacks to astroturf popularity.
> There are also several (known) political mercenaries who operate bot farms specifically to attack leftists and signal boost those attacks to astroturf popularity. You mean harassers and bullies from hexbear AKA chapotraphouse who target radical feminists? Yes, it's leftists attacking women who disagree with them.
Haven't heard about this.
Is there evidence of bot accounts specifically? Or is it unclear if its bots (network of accounts managed by one or few people) or a crowd of tribalist low-information angry people? Often hard to tell them apart, and a successful former often breeds the later, so I think it can be challenging to determine conclusively.
"Bot" has also increasingly (and incorrectly IMO) been used as a pejorative for belligerent human trolls, which further obfuscates this discussion.
Would love to see a source about chapo bots - google isn't turning up anything for me. I find these sorts of social media propaganda operations fascinating.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wonder how this "troll" was "traced". Specially trained Twitter-hound? You don't just "trace" people on the internet. Look up Kurt Eichenwald. He found and sued an anonymous Twitter troll who send him a GIF "you deserve a seizure" in 2017. I'm not sure exactly how, I think the authorities helped him, so Twitter just might've gave them the information.
So for anyone else that found that completely odd, the whole story is that he sued someone who sent him a DM with a gif that purposefully triggered his epilepsy and caused him to seize. The words "you deserve a seizure" were definitely not the basis of the suit.
Minor correction, it wasn't a DM, it was a public tweet that had him tagged. Then his wife (or him pretending to be his wife) responded to the tweet from Eichenwald's account, that he just had a seizure and that she had called the police.