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Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

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Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

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> we of course need to markup on top of that to cover our processing costs, overhead to offer great support, mitigate abuse, etc Why "of course"? Cloudflare is able to provide domains transfers and renewals at wholesale rates.

Does Cloudflare do registrations at all?

Only renewals.

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#102
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Ted, I've used namecheap for years and I love it. One thing though, when I visit namecheap while using a VPN it makes me fill out a cloudflare captcha. Any way to stop that? Considering I have already paid you money, you have my address, name, phone number, etc. it seems a bit ridiculous to ask for a captcha when visiting using a VPN.

Captcha is likely being triggered by Cloudflare. We have heard this feedback in this past and have listened but it's always a tricky balance of fighting abuse/bots and presenting an extra step for the user.

bots?

what are they doing on namecheap? buying domain names?

(if they're hitting your domain checker you can configure cloudflare to only captcha protect that page...)

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#103
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To add to that, why can they actually? Why doesn't the EU just start a new .com registry that the rest of the world can actually refer to? I don't have a complete understanding of the TLD world but I can imagine it's much like the AS world with BGP. If the rest of world decides that one registry (Verizon's .com registry) isn't the leading authority, but rather the EU's .com registry for example, is. Than what "can" v…

Here’s a starting point for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root

Thank you!

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

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Suck it out of the world economy? Does Verisign collect their profits and throw it all in a furnace?

What point are you trying to make? I think you know they don't burn the money.

That's it's not lost or sucked out of the economy. It is transferred to new owners who will spend it and it will go to new owners and so on and so forth.

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#105
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Loss leader. The markup from legacy registrars is probably excessive, but with Google, Cloudflare, etc getting into the game, they can likely offer wholesale pricing to support the rest of their (very) profitable product lines.

Exactly. Depends how you define legacy registrars but I can agree with you to an extent. Namecheap's retail pricing is not excessive by any means — domains on their own are essentially commoditized — it all depends how much you value service and trust. Try calling Google if your domain is hijacked, your account is locked, or you have any number of other issues with a high value domain.

Yes. Just got off the phone with your support this morning. It made the process so much faster and easier. Instead of spending 3 hours trying to fix it myself and reading countless search results, I got it fixed in 5 minutes. Never, ever would happen with Google or Yahoo.

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#106
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How do you decide what profit margin is acceptable? Is it okay for a company to have 3%? 76%?

I look at the average, which is about 10% for the sp500. https://insight.factset.com/sp-500-reporting-net-profit-marg...

Yes, that is correct, but that is only an average, of course. There are many ways to break things down. When you look at industries, we find that in 2016, for example, beverage manufacturing has a .8% profit margin, grocery stores have 2.5%, auto dealers are 3.2%. Beer wine and liquor store industry is 3.4%. On the other hand, we have high profit industries: accounting, tax prep, bookkeeping is 18.3%, legal is 17.4%, leasing real estate is 17.4%. And again, that's average. You can have one CPA charging $50/hour, and another charging $500 per hour. Costs are pretty much the same, if they both are sole proprietors, but the one charging $500/hour is probably 500% plus profit margin, or whatever it is.

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#107
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Captcha is likely being triggered by Cloudflare. We have heard this feedback in this past and have listened but it's always a tricky balance of fighting abuse/bots and presenting an extra step for the user.

Also, as a general aside to web devs, if we need captchas, can we at least use something less obnoxious and more privacy friendly, like: https://friendlycaptcha.com/ I put this on my signup form and have had zero spam since, and it has very little impact on user experience. The fact that it doesn't feed the google surveillance machine is a bonus.

Cloudflare no longer uses Google's ReCaptcha, it's now using HCaptcha (https://blog.cloudflare.com/moving-from-recaptcha-to-hcaptch...)

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#108

I would also love to remind everyone that this is the same company who controls not 1 but 2 core root DNS server addresses. A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET That means Verisign controls 15% of the global roots while everyone else holds a meager 7%. IANA got the optics on this one all sorts of messed up.

The root servers are not all equal and there is no real advantage to holding two. There are 63 Js, 14 As, but 165 Ls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server

I don't doubt that, it's also trivial for anyone to spin up their own local root mirror to resolve against, I'm just pointing out that maybe Verisign shouldn't be holding onto two. It's even pointed out on their Wikipedia page like some kind of trophy like "Oh hey look, we don't just run 1 we run *2*, that makes us a big deal". :eyeroll:

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#109

Capitalism is an economic system in which private individuals capture property, make it private, make it scarce, then charge others to use it, making profit. Profit is theft from society. Stuff like this is the natural conclusion of such a system.

Profit is reward for taking a risk. Don't like that a .com costs more? Use another TLD.

What risk did Verisign take, and how would the Internet change if they weren't rewarded for it?
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