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Canada is a warning: more and more of the world will soon be too hot for humans

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Re: Canada is a warning: more and more of the world will soon be too hot for humans

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Post by lm28469 »

refurb wrote: post #2

Is that really true? I mean human have no problem living in Arizona during the summer. Or countries in the equator where wet bulb temperature hover around 27C. I imagine Canada would be more like the mid latitudes of the US if we saw a 2-4C increase in average temp.

> I mean human have no problem living in Arizona during the summer.

If all you do is sleep in an air conditioned home, commute in an air conditioned car, and work in an air conditioned office, then sure, we have "no problem".

Re: Canada is a warning: more and more of the world will soon be too hot for humans

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Post by stragio »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #4

Where will the world not be too hot to live in the next 50-100 years?

https://www.howhotwillitget.com, I made an overview of future climate scenarios of each country worldwide with the latest predictions by the World Bank, maybe this is what you are looking for. :)

Re: Canada is a warning: more and more of the world will soon be too hot for humans

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Post by mikestew »

lm28469 wrote: post #11
refurb wrote: post #2

Is that really true? I mean human have no problem living in Arizona during the summer. Or countries in the equator where wet bulb temperature hover around 27C. I imagine Canada would be more like the mid latitudes of the US if we saw a 2-4C increase in average temp.

> I mean human have no problem living in Arizona during the summer. If all you do is sleep in an air conditioned home, commute in an air conditioned car, and work in an air conditioned office, then sure, we have "no problem".

They're soon going to "have (a) problem" when the Colorado River starts to have the predicted shortages this year. Those golf courses might have to skip a watering or two.

Re: Canada is a warning: more and more of the world will soon be too hot for humans

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Post by toomuchtodo »

stragio wrote: post #12
toomuchtodo wrote: post #4

Where will the world not be too hot to live in the next 50-100 years?

https://www.howhotwillitget.com , I made an overview of future climate scenarios of each country worldwide with the latest predictions by the World Bank, maybe this is what you are looking for. :)

This is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Thanks for sharing it, have a tip jar? You might also consider posting it as a Show HN post [1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/show

Re: Canada is a warning: more and more of the world will soon be too hot for humans

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Post by stragio »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #14
stragio wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.howhotwillitget.com , I made an overview of future climate scenarios of each country worldwide with the latest predictions by the World Bank, maybe this is what you are looking for. :)

This is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Thanks for sharing it, have a tip jar? You might also consider posting it as a Show HN post [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/show

Thank you very much! Please consider donating the tip you meant to give to this Dutch environmental organization: "https://milieudefensie.nl/actie/doneer." They are the ones who brought the case against Shell in court, forcing the company to actively reduce its emissions by 2030.

Regarding posting it on Show HN: I attempted it but received no responses; nonetheless, I will try again with a better UI/UX someday, as there can be some improvement for our crowd over here. If anyone is willing to help expand the platform, feel free to message me on Twitter.

Re: Canada is a warning: more and more of the world will soon be too hot for humans

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Post by frosted-flakes »

fractallyte wrote: post #8

WTF?? All the time - it's about humans ! We're not the only species on this planet! We don't exist in a vacuum - there is such a thing as an ecological network! What's the fallout for everything else? How many mammals, birds, reptiles, insects died in the recent heatwave? How will this shape ecosystems and biomes? This kind of thinking is part of the problem...

Of course it's about humans. It's always about humans. It happens to be advantageous for us to maintain healthy ecosystems and biomes, but without humans, those things have no meaning.

If a dog or a dangerous wild animal attacks an innocent human child, the point-of-view of the dog or wild animal is never considered, even if it acted in self-defense; it is automatically at fault, and destroyed or relocated to prevent further injury. This is the same approach that we as a species treat everything, for good reason. We've come to recognize that we need the rest of nature and now try in some way to preserve it (not enough in my opinion), but don't forget that we do so for selfish reasons.

Re: Canada is a warning: more and more of the world will soon be too hot for humans

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Post by sharken »

hourislate wrote: post #3
refurb wrote: post #2

Is that really true? I mean human have no problem living in Arizona during the summer. Or countries in the equator where wet bulb temperature hover around 27C. I imagine Canada would be more like the mid latitudes of the US if we saw a 2-4C increase in average temp.

Much less humidity in AZ although it is easy to succumb to the heat if you don't take precautions. In BC you have a completely different environment where a lot of the heat is attributed to/through humidity. It can be 25C but feel like 35C due to the Humidity. AC is not something people have required in these areas. If they are still under a semi lock down, than they may not be able to seek shelter in shopping malls,…

As in reality sets in and whatever policy there may be for Covid will have to go and restrictions removed.

It's quite a novel idea to link vaccination percentage with reopening, I'm quite glad that a similar plan is not used where I live.

https://www.ontario.ca/page/reopening-ontario

Re: Canada is a warning: more and more of the world will soon be too hot for humans

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Post by vfclists »

Typical Guardian fluffy logic. Long on theoretical solutions, short on practicality, the kind of logic privileged Westerners are so fond of.

The only way to deal with exercise heat is to redesign buildings, living and work environments to cope with the heat.

Climate alarmists always pretend that human beings haven't seen such events and learned to adapt to them. They have, the important thing is learn from the past, not blame everything on CO2 warming.

The only way to cope with a warming climate is to expend lots more energy in the near term handle the changes in the future, and if you are going to avoid CO2, nuclear is the way forward or something better comes up,

The Green Energy plan is mostly bogus, and that is easy to tell from the kind of companies which have jumped on the bandwagon seeing as leopards don't change their spots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE

Re: Canada is a warning: more and more of the world will soon be too hot for humans

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Post by HDMI_Cable »

sharken wrote: post #17
hourislate wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much less humidity in AZ although it is easy to succumb to the heat if you don't take precautions. In BC you have a completely different environment where a lot of the heat is attributed to/through humidity. It can be 25C but feel like 35C due to the Humidity. AC is not something people have required in these areas. If they are still under a semi lock down, than they may not be able to seek shelter in shopping malls,…

As in reality sets in and whatever policy there may be for Covid will have to go and restrictions removed. It's quite a novel idea to link vaccination percentage with reopening, I'm quite glad that a similar plan is not used where I live. https://www.ontario.ca/page/reopening-ontario

Especially considering that it’s summer too. I’m from Ontario and you see counties with 2 million people delay opening because of 25 daily cases.
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