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Gap to close all 81 stores in UK and Ireland

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Re: Gap to close all 81 stores in UK and Ireland

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My dream is not paying 100-200 EUR for clothing which cost 1-10 EUR to produce. Don't care about your lifestyle, philosophy, trends, influencers, brand and logo. I want it vulgar - cash for good quality clothes.

I'd have no issue paying 100-200 EUR for clothing if it wasn't for the constant stream of news reminding me, that the people who made my clothes are payed less than a dollar per week and getting sick while doing so.

Re: Gap to close all 81 stores in UK and Ireland

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Judging by all the signs up in windows, many retailers (and pubs/restaurants) seem to be struggling to find staff right now, at least in London. There can’t be that many retail workers still on the furlough scheme?

As of May, around 11.5m jobs are on furlough [1] with total labour force size of 35m [2]. This is slightly apples-to-oranges as one person can hold 2 jobs and be furloughed on both, but at face value it is about 1/3 of UK working population. I heard an interview with Angela Leadsom that it is very difficult to take people off furlough. Many people found another job while also getting furlough pay and are resisting go…

"employer needs to accommodate employee needs with regards to health and safety."

Back when I was young, we'd loose a finger or three on occasional workshift and never complained! Just plaster over them and get back to work!

That's after walking 13 miles to the factory, in a blizzard, uphill, both ways!

Re: Gap to close all 81 stores in UK and Ireland

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I'd say things have been heading south for Gap UK shops for the last 10 years and accelerated recently. They have been on a downward quality path for a long time with no apparent strategy. Every time you go back, they have different ranges, so no repeat purchases are even possible. Found something you like and want to buy again? Tough. And the quality got progressively worse. For basics like jeans and t-shirts, I swi…

Gap's quality is higher than H&M, IMHO. Zara is another of Gap's rivals that seems to be expanding in the UK highstreet, although I rarely find anything worth purchasing.

Inditex (Zara) is a juggernaut compared with Gap or Primark. The differences in scale of operations, targeting, and branding are massive. It is like comparing AWS with Cloudera.

Re: Gap to close all 81 stores in UK and Ireland

#54

I'd say things have been heading south for Gap UK shops for the last 10 years and accelerated recently. They have been on a downward quality path for a long time with no apparent strategy. Every time you go back, they have different ranges, so no repeat purchases are even possible. Found something you like and want to buy again? Tough. And the quality got progressively worse. For basics like jeans and t-shirts, I swi…

I don't buy clothes at Muji but every time I've needed some of the home stuff from the Angel one it's been packed.

Re: Gap to close all 81 stores in UK and Ireland

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As of May, around 11.5m jobs are on furlough [1] with total labour force size of 35m [2]. This is slightly apples-to-oranges as one person can hold 2 jobs and be furloughed on both, but at face value it is about 1/3 of UK working population. I heard an interview with Angela Leadsom that it is very difficult to take people off furlough. Many people found another job while also getting furlough pay and are resisting go…

The 11.5m is a cumulative figure, not the current number of jobs on furlough! That was 3.4m as of 30 April according to official statistics, and should be substantially lower by now: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/coronavirus-job-ret... This BBC article says there's currently 1.5m still on furlough: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57665735

Ah, shouldn't write comments before coffee! Good point

Re: Gap to close all 81 stores in UK and Ireland

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Gap's quality is higher than H&M, IMHO. Zara is another of Gap's rivals that seems to be expanding in the UK highstreet, although I rarely find anything worth purchasing.

Inditex (Zara) is a juggernaut compared with Gap or Primark. The differences in scale of operations, targeting, and branding are massive. It is like comparing AWS with Cloudera.

I find the rapid store expansion a problem and wouldn't be surprised if they repeat the same mistake, although they haven't plastered their clothes with Zara logos.

Uniqlo is the only store that hasn't yet repeated this mistake.

Re: Gap to close all 81 stores in UK and Ireland

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My dream is not paying 100-200 EUR for clothing which cost 1-10 EUR to produce. Don't care about your lifestyle, philosophy, trends, influencers, brand and logo. I want it vulgar - cash for good quality clothes.

I've recently found a (Swiss) shop which has the main business of printing and stitching logos onto bulk shirts, but will happily sell me low volumes of the blank clothes as well.

Those do typically have shit quality at bargain prices, but as soon as you pay more than, let's say 10 EUR for a simple shirt, the quality is quite good (certainly better than C&A or most branded merch).

That might be an avenue worth investigating for you as well!

Re: Gap to close all 81 stores in UK and Ireland

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What's stopping you?

Most new jeans, jackets, sweaters, chinos, trouses, etc below 50-60 EUR per item look and wear like rags.

There are lots of mid-price clothing retailers across Europe who produce reasonable quality clothes (better than Primark quality). I find it hard to believe these stores sell poor quality chinos, jeans, etc in the 30-50 price range.

Having said that, I'm sure everyone has a story of how a cheaply priced item of clothing turned out to be of better quality and durability than a equalivent expensive item.

(Aside: In the UK, I'd place clothing retailers like John Lewis and Marks & Spencer in the mid-price to high-price category.)

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