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IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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Re: IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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Does this affect the part of IBM that used to be Red Hat? When I was at RH as recently as 2017, email was an absolutely essential part of most workflows. It was all pretty crappy and last-century - don't even get me started on bugzilla being similarly essential - but it did work.

No. We have Gmail-for-workspaces.

-current red hatter.

Re: IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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post #110

Does this affect the part of IBM that used to be Red Hat? When I was at RH as recently as 2017, email was an absolutely essential part of most workflows. It was all pretty crappy and last-century - don't even get me started on bugzilla being similarly essential - but it did work.

Former Red Hatter wondering the same thing. RH was transitioning to Gmail right as I was onboarding. I never really used the previous system which I think was Zimbra iirc.

Red Hat is all gsuite and runs all of its own systems like HR, etc.

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From the comments: > These guys were important once, right? I don't think I'm old enough to remember such a time. I thought they were a law firm for a while because they only seemed to be mentioned in court cases. Ouch.

Its funny how differently people probably perceive them based on what tech they work with. At work, I use their IBM i / AS400 on the daily. At school, I work with IBM Q for research. I would contend that IBM is one of the most important players in QC / NISQ today, and still notable for their mainframes and things like zOS. And what about RHEL? According to their Q4-FY2020 earnings report, they did $2.5bn in revenue f…

I’m 41, and know all those things, and my father’s company ran for most of my life on AS/400. But they replaced those systems over a decade ago. My whole professional career IBM has been trying to commit corporate suicide in a stumbling awkward way. It’s a testament to how long you can keep spending down brand credibility. I struggle to call them important today. Maybe historically interesting. But not important.

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post #80

From the comments: > These guys were important once, right? I don't think I'm old enough to remember such a time. I thought they were a law firm for a while because they only seemed to be mentioned in court cases. Ouch.

Anyone who makes such a comment is ignorant. IBM has far more access to the highest levels of the biggest companies and governments than just about any other IT company. Just because they’re not hosting free email doesn’t mean they are irrelevant.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its funny how differently people probably perceive them based on what tech they work with. At work, I use their IBM i / AS400 on the daily. At school, I work with IBM Q for research. I would contend that IBM is one of the most important players in QC / NISQ today, and still notable for their mainframes and things like zOS. And what about RHEL? According to their Q4-FY2020 earnings report, they did $2.5bn in revenue f…

I’m 41, and know all those things, and my father’s company ran for most of my life on AS/400. But they replaced those systems over a decade ago. My whole professional career IBM has been trying to commit corporate suicide in a stumbling awkward way. It’s a testament to how long you can keep spending down brand credibility. I struggle to call them important today. Maybe historically interesting. But not important.

So a Fortune 50 company is “unimportant”? In what way?

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if you’re sarcastic or not, but my company (enterprise size) has migrated from self hosted Exchange + network file shares + GitLab + Jenkins + Artifactory + 1000 other things to Office 365 + Azure and it’s been great. Probably took a lot more effort than what I notice as an end user…but I do get the impression that Microsoft is pretty good in enterprise productivity…

Office365 as a platform appears to suffer from terrible unreliability. My last role was in a google apps shop, and i miss it every single day. (it's been 3 years).

Not sure why I have the opposite experience. We transitioned from self hosted Exchange to Office 365 and then Teams a few years ago, and I don't even remember a single instance of an outage.

Re: IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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post #109

IBM-er here. yep, it's kinda a disaster, but tech savvy people can access their mail (clearing cache & cookies every few hours helps for some folks). Funny thing, IBM tried to move to Exchange for years , but it failed every time. Turns out, calendar integration (between Exchange and Verse/Notes) is tricky. Especially if you have to do it for 300000 accounts. To be frank, I haven't received any meeting invites in 3 d…

> I haven't received any meeting invites in 3 days, so I'm actually quite satisfied with the migration. Task failed successfully?

Task was successful because it increased productivity.

Re: IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster: sources

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post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m 41, and know all those things, and my father’s company ran for most of my life on AS/400. But they replaced those systems over a decade ago. My whole professional career IBM has been trying to commit corporate suicide in a stumbling awkward way. It’s a testament to how long you can keep spending down brand credibility. I struggle to call them important today. Maybe historically interesting. But not important.

So a Fortune 50 company is “unimportant”? In what way?

Maybe is more irrelevant, than unimportant
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