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What's It Like To Be Fired?

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Re: What's It Like To Be Fired?

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Interesting, but:

In the startup, tech community, if you get fired, you become a persona non grata. That means all the social circles I had booted me out.

The article says this happened "many years ago." I can't imagine the part above applying any longer with the different ways in which people socialize in the tech industry even in just the last few years.

Even folks who've done pretty shady things, are potty mouthed psychopaths, or who have caused significant scandal aren't getting totally ejected from "the community" (partly because there isn't just one tech community, but still).

Re: What's It Like To Be Fired?

#3
to clarify on the reference - i'm assuming she only mean employment history, and I thought employers were only allowed to say the dates of your employment and validate you did work at a company. Also I think you would have to explain to the new company your interviewing the gaps in your employment history, if you didin't list it at all.

As for the reference I assume you would ask a person first if you are able to use them as a reference prior to listing them as a reference. So if your manager fires you for reason xyz, I doubt you'd want to use them as a reference

Re: What's It Like To Be Fired?

#4

to clarify on the reference - i'm assuming she only mean employment history, and I thought employers were only allowed to say the dates of your employment and validate you did work at a company. Also I think you would have to explain to the new company your interviewing the gaps in your employment history, if you didin't list it at all. As for the reference I assume you would ask a person first if you are able to use…

They can say just about anything they want, but if they cross certain lines, they can be sued for libel. So they don't.

Re: What's It Like To Be Fired?

#5
"Also getting fired is something that shouldn’t come as a surprise"

Sounds like an unhealthy work environment. Management was pointing fingers at other management? Lame. Getting fired should never be a surprise.

Re: What's It Like To Be Fired?

#6

Interesting, but: In the startup, tech community, if you get fired, you become a persona non grata. That means all the social circles I had booted me out. The article says this happened "many years ago." I can't imagine the part above applying any longer with the different ways in which people socialize in the tech industry even in just the last few years. Even folks who've done pretty shady things, are potty mouthed…

Yeah, I was dubious about that statement too. I think that the author took it really hard, and got a little paranoid. They were also probably embarrassed about it, and found it hard to talk about; especially as they had signed a disclaimer.

Re: What's It Like To Be Fired?

#7
I once got fired for giving my boss the advice to "shred" their drive (it was their last day). Someone overheard this incorrectly and thought that I said "on my last day, that I'd shred all the companies drives".

It was my word against his and company's revenues were down significantly. They put me on non-paid leave and a week later when they "investigated" the matter, they fired me, but by then I had new a job with a much better company.

It was a blessing. I learned more at this new place and earned more too. It was later acquired by Adobe (mental stagnation).

Getting fired NEVER lead to me being outcasted from the local tech community. It instead improved my life.

Re: What's It Like To Be Fired?

#9

"Also getting fired is something that shouldn’t come as a surprise" Sounds like an unhealthy work environment. Management was pointing fingers at other management? Lame. Getting fired should never be a surprise.

There's a few conflicting things here. One is that you fire an employee then moment it becomes obvious they will have to be fired, so a firing should be quick. Another is that performance problems should be addressed - an employee should know if their current performance is not acceptable. Finally, you don't want an employee (especially programmers) to know that they will be fired, or they attack you from within.

Of course, it does seem like management was very passive-aggressive here. Not good.

A quick edit - I HATE the term "passive-aggressive". All usually means (in the workplace) is "not actually doing their job until a crisis hits".

Re: What's It Like To Be Fired?

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to clarify on the reference - i'm assuming she only mean employment history, and I thought employers were only allowed to say the dates of your employment and validate you did work at a company. Also I think you would have to explain to the new company your interviewing the gaps in your employment history, if you didin't list it at all. As for the reference I assume you would ask a person first if you are able to use…

I thought Barce was a guy. Who is that woman on the page?
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