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Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

SOME "environmentalists" fought against nuclear power for 70+ years.

No, most of them did.

You should have specified that. Sure, big media ops like Greenpeace are anti-nuclear. However, many actual scientists like James Lovelock is staunchly pro-nuclear [1].

[1] - https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/18/james-lo...

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

#103
post #6

The affects of this on third world country are even worse. Here in Algeria we are having the worst drought in over 20 years. What I fear, is that if this continues to happen, people could literally start dying from thirst again. I wonder how good is desalination of sea water technology and if we could see some startups that explore this field, certainly a lot of people's lives to be changed.

Nearly all of earth has plenty of water for drinking...

The thing we don't have enough for in many places is agriculture, industry, watering lawns, bathing, etc.

Although as usual the human problem of doing a suboptimal job of allocating a scarce resource applies...

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

#104
post #70

I feel like extreme weather is right up there with super moons and other astronomical events when it comes to generating headlines, so I did a time constrained Google search for "heat dome" and here's what turned up: 2020-07-10 - "How a ‘Heat Dome’ Forms—and Why This One Is So Perilous (A massive, intense heat wave is settling over the continental US. The ravages of the Covid pandemic are going to make it all the mor…

If the same headline comes up every year then it's easy to construe it as headline-generating pandering. But the facts are, that the earth is warming more and more every year, and if you are under 40 then you have never experienced a year of below-average temperatures. The headlines are repeated because we break new records every year. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/10/if-you...

The same headline is not coming up every year, at least with regards to the weather event the article is about. Seattle's previous record was from 11 years ago in 2009. Seattle also hit triple digit temperatures two other times, in 1941 and 1994. Source: https://www.seattlepi.com/local/weather/article/10-years-ago...

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

#105
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easy to blame political leaders, but they are (mostly) elected by the general population. Here in the US ~50% of the people vote for climate change deniers, so they are the ones you need to convince.

US voters didn't become climate change deniers by chance

How do US voters go about changing climate policy in China and India?

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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I feel like extreme weather is right up there with super moons and other astronomical events when it comes to generating headlines, so I did a time constrained Google search for "heat dome" and here's what turned up: 2020-07-10 - "How a ‘Heat Dome’ Forms—and Why This One Is So Perilous (A massive, intense heat wave is settling over the continental US. The ravages of the Covid pandemic are going to make it all the mor…

> The ravages of the Covid pandemic are going to make it all the more deadly. Yeah... um... call me skeptical on that claim. So far as I can tell, Covid didn't break anybody's air conditioners. It didn't (so far as I know) leave people more susceptible to heat. That article seems like attention-grabbing nonsense. (I'm not blaming you , just commenting on what your search turned up.)

I agree it's probably just attention grabbing nonsense, but I'll note there are a bunch of communal shelters being used by people who don't have facilities otherwise to get out of the dangerous heat levels. Bringing a bunch of strangers together into a communal heat shelter isn't ideal in a pandemic.

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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post #18
post #6

The affects of this on third world country are even worse. Here in Algeria we are having the worst drought in over 20 years. What I fear, is that if this continues to happen, people could literally start dying from thirst again. I wonder how good is desalination of sea water technology and if we could see some startups that explore this field, certainly a lot of people's lives to be changed.

I'm not celebrating people dying of thirst, but I also think that's the only thing that will get the world properly focused on the issue. We need to make big structural changes to the global economy to fight climate change, and those changes are going to have an outsized negative impact on today's wealthiest and most powerful people. They aren't going to let change happen without a fight. People dying is what it's go…

How do we know this is the result of climate change? It's meant as an honest question. Though it is largely ignored in the mainstream discussion, I've heard for years to be careful about making a distinction between weather and climate. Are you thinking this is not weather, but climate? How does one tell the difference? If there's a record winter of cold temps, would it be evidence that the climate is cooling?

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

#108
post #92

The huge waves of human migration caused by climate changes will not only lead to suffering and death of millions, it will also bring us to the new brink of a new world war. Whole regions becoming unlivable will affect us all. We can't wait around until some invention saves us. We need to act now. We can turn this around with WWS alone.

What is WWS in this context?

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

#109
post #8

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As an individual, there isn't really anything you can do. Going vegetarian doesn't help. Recycling doesn't help. Using your shower for 5 minutes doesn't help. As a society, we've chosen to manage resources via capitalism. If you use less water, what that means is water is cheaper so some corporation can afford another few acres of almond trees. If consumers cut their waste in half, the slack would be picked up at the…

A dictatorship[1] of the proletariat could do that! > I genuinely believe the only answer is violently enforced regulation. I would like to point out that 'violence' is not _strictly_ necessary, except as a defensive measure. An internationally-organized working class could simply refuse to work on destructive projects (new oil pipelines, etc). Unfortunately, people in power tend to react with increasing violence whe…

If the "working class" revolts, it's going to be against climate change-focused regulations, not in favor of them.

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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post #92

The huge waves of human migration caused by climate changes will not only lead to suffering and death of millions, it will also bring us to the new brink of a new world war. Whole regions becoming unlivable will affect us all. We can't wait around until some invention saves us. We need to act now. We can turn this around with WWS alone.

I personally would not buy property or a home south of the 45th parallel. I know people moving from Oregon to Texas because they disagree with how Oregon handled the pandemic. I think they are nuts in more ways than one.
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