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Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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Post by Arrath »

kiloreux wrote: post #6

The affects of this on third world country are even worse. Here in Algeria we are having the worst drought in over 20 years. What I fear, is that if this continues to happen, people could literally start dying from thirst again. I wonder how good is desalination of sea water technology and if we could see some startups that explore this field, certainly a lot of people's lives to be changed.

Most desalination methods are unfortunately quite energy intensive, and produce a concentrated brine that has environmental/disposal concerns such that it can't just be pumped back into the ocean, really.

It presents a difficult problem for entrepreneurs to tackle. Definitely the potential to change people's lives for the better, though.

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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Post by lostcolony »

Taek wrote: post #18
kiloreux wrote: post #6

The affects of this on third world country are even worse. Here in Algeria we are having the worst drought in over 20 years. What I fear, is that if this continues to happen, people could literally start dying from thirst again. I wonder how good is desalination of sea water technology and if we could see some startups that explore this field, certainly a lot of people's lives to be changed.

I'm not celebrating people dying of thirst, but I also think that's the only thing that will get the world properly focused on the issue. We need to make big structural changes to the global economy to fight climate change, and those changes are going to have an outsized negative impact on today's wealthiest and most powerful people. They aren't going to let change happen without a fight. People dying is what it's go…

I'm not even optimistic about that. Because it'll be the -poor- people dying.

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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Post by Lammy »

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #17
Lammy wrote: post #11

Maybe it's time to start talking about ways humanity can geo-engineer our way out of this instead of just sitting here waiting to suffer. The US Air Force has been interested in this topic for decades, but there's no way to know how viable any of that research actually is. Some of the speculative documents I've read propose using carbon black dust as a way to artificially reflect heat, like https://web.archive.org/we…

The Matrix!

I wish that was what they meant by "VR WX — Virtual Weather" :p

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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Post by [deleted] »

908B64B197 wrote: post #25
kiloreux wrote: post #6

The affects of this on third world country are even worse. Here in Algeria we are having the worst drought in over 20 years. What I fear, is that if this continues to happen, people could literally start dying from thirst again. I wonder how good is desalination of sea water technology and if we could see some startups that explore this field, certainly a lot of people's lives to be changed.

Again? Didn't the Romans build aqueduct there 2000 years ago?

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Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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Post by 6f8986c3 »

pphysch wrote: post #27
Taek wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an individual, there isn't really anything you can do. Going vegetarian doesn't help. Recycling doesn't help. Using your shower for 5 minutes doesn't help. As a society, we've chosen to manage resources via capitalism. If you use less water, what that means is water is cheaper so some corporation can afford another few acres of almond trees. If consumers cut their waste in half, the slack would be picked up at the…

I agree with you but as it stands the dominant ideology of the USA-led "international rule-based order" is Liberalism (i.e. the individual is the authority). Until there is an ideological revolution in the West, this is "just how it is". Every scientifically-correct, readily-implementable strategy to address this crisis will be killed at some point for infringing on sacred "individual liberties". Look at Biden curren…

Environmentalists fought against nuclear power for 70 years. The result? We burned coal.

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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Post by dillondoyle »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #4

Maybe it’s time to signal political leaders that climate collapse is an urgent issue.

I think about 40% of the country has been 'signaling' pretty hard. 30% are actively pushing for more emissions/denial. And the rest are sick of the infighting.

Take the bipartisan infrastructure 'agreement' (not final). Republicans refused to do anything but support more cars...

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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Post by _y5hn »

Taek wrote: post #8
blondie9x wrote: post #3

To some seeing records such as these fall is heartbreaking. It’s agonizing and vexing when you wonder what can you do to help slow down climate change? The reality is we aren’t doing nearly enough to slow it down and the Earth is gradually destabilizing. We see insane cold snaps such as those that impacted Texas this winter, and at the opposite end of the spectrum heat waves unlike anything humans have ever experienc…

As an individual, there isn't really anything you can do. Going vegetarian doesn't help. Recycling doesn't help. Using your shower for 5 minutes doesn't help. As a society, we've chosen to manage resources via capitalism. If you use less water, what that means is water is cheaper so some corporation can afford another few acres of almond trees. If consumers cut their waste in half, the slack would be picked up at the…

Maybe you're right, maybe war is the answer to less CO2: https://www.co2levels.org/

However, it is interesting that people find "solutions", before they've even described and analysed the entire problem set.

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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Post by fragbait65 »

Honestly, why bother?

The earth isn't dying, the earth will be fine, it will recover over time, humanity on the other hand needs to be reduced.

If it isn't climate change, an epidemic or something else, then it will be war over resources some time in the future.

On the other hand, climate change will probably lead to war anyway, since resources like water and places to live will decrease from that, so war is probably in the future anyway, since world population continue to rise, especially since the Chinese seem to allow 3 children moving forward.

Re: Heat dome causing record breaking heat wave

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Post by nkingsy »

Taek wrote: post #8
blondie9x wrote: post #3

To some seeing records such as these fall is heartbreaking. It’s agonizing and vexing when you wonder what can you do to help slow down climate change? The reality is we aren’t doing nearly enough to slow it down and the Earth is gradually destabilizing. We see insane cold snaps such as those that impacted Texas this winter, and at the opposite end of the spectrum heat waves unlike anything humans have ever experienc…

As an individual, there isn't really anything you can do. Going vegetarian doesn't help. Recycling doesn't help. Using your shower for 5 minutes doesn't help. As a society, we've chosen to manage resources via capitalism. If you use less water, what that means is water is cheaper so some corporation can afford another few acres of almond trees. If consumers cut their waste in half, the slack would be picked up at the…

You could just say enforced. The violence is implicit.

I think an infinite metadata approach also gets you there.

It appears that culture becomes homogenized in a direct relationship with information transfer.

So if we continue on the path of generating metadata for EVERYTHING, we will arrive in a world where we can obtain detailed supply chain information just by virtue of the fact that a thing exists.

Transparent supply chains and homogenized culture seems like a good recipe for internalizing externalities without regulation per say (rather propaganda).

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