‘Great Resignation’ gains steam as return-to-work plans take effect

Post by gowld » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 6:12 PM UTC

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hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #305

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> Offices are full of people trying to give each other eating disorders through passive aggression, politics and generally pointless power games. Seriously, does half of HN work in the real-life equivalent of "The Office"? Yes, office politics exist, but this idea that it's some sort of scheming, back-stabbing environment is a caricature I have never experienced in my nearly 30 year career.

So you've not seen layoffs? I have. It was a mad scurry of people running around looking busy and indispensible. Bullying? I've had it done to me and another time had to sit in with HR on someone else's behalf. People being performance managed just because? I saw a bunch of 40 somethings get targeted and zeroed out. It got ugly. 30x1 is not the same as 1x30 or 6x5 or 15x2 or 10x3. They all look like the same equation…

Post by gowld » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 6:13 PM UTC

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Vets with 5+ years of specific subdomain experience within the company's ecosystem (along with experienced engineers who have experience from elsewhere) are much harder to replace.

A big part of the rather documentation and process-heavy development model at FAANGs and other large corporations is to ensure that other people can take over a project if any individual leaves. Much as people will hate this analogy, "cattle, not pets" is a concept managers and HR knew long before the software industry stumbled on it. The people at FAANGs are highly-talented but, even at that level, only a handful ar…

Post by yupper32 » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 6:14 PM UTC

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> People just have different preferences. I'm always surprised how HN treats WFH as _obviously_ superior and desirable in every way, to the point where OP is claiming these mega corps may collapse if they ask their employees to come into the office.

That's not how I read it. Rather, I read it as the _ability_ to work from home is _obviously_ superior. As some people do better remotely and some do better in the office, requiring that everyone come into the office is an inferior choice. Admittedly, even that isn't unambiguously true (and neither would be the reverse).

Post by dougmwne » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 6:24 PM UTC

oh_sigh wrote: post #309

okareaman wrote: post #161

I was extremely lucky to WFH during the first 12 years of my software career. When I finally got a job in an office I was shocked at how awful it was. The 2 hours commuting every workday, the flickering fluorescent lights, the noise of coworkers, the smell of burnt coffee or popcorn, the boss that drops by to see how you're doing and causes you to lose a hour of concentration so I might as browse the web until quitti…

The 2 hour commute is your fault, not the fault of office job's. My commute is 10 minutes.

Post by AznHisoka » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 6:26 PM UTC

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eric4smith wrote: post #7

I think regardless of the stats, there is a movement of people wanting a better work and life balance. But what will this mean for society? For one, I see in the immediate future a bit of a reduction in commerce for a while. This is simply because people will have less money To spend. Duh. Still… humans always persist and adapt. Therefore in maybe 5 years there will be more of a Renaissance and a big change in how we…

Meta-response, but what is with the carriage return after every sentence, (and sometimes in the middle)? It's a jarring way to write.