‘Great Resignation’ gains steam as return-to-work plans take effect

Post by throwaways885 » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 5:48 PM UTC

sircastor wrote: post #72

aikinai wrote: post #57

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This is the most blatantly ridiculous straw man, I can’t believe people on HN keep trying to make it especially against FAANG. Do you really think these companies are run by middle managers that just want to watch people work? At least at Google, a huge number of employees already work in a different floor, office, city, or even country than their managers that this couldn’t even be a factor for them.

It’s not hard. It’s not as though Sundar Pichai sends out a survey to all Google employees. He asks the VPs, and the VPs ask their reports and so on and so forth. I have no doubt there’s data from middle management that is getting weighed more than that of the people they manage.

Post by jstepka » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 5:49 PM UTC

hnthrowaway2021 wrote: post #27

dcolkitt wrote: post #15

I’m honestly perplexed what the FANGs are even thinking in being so aggressive about pushing an end to WFH. Sure it could all work out fine for them. Maybe employees will grumble for a bit, then settle back into office life. But maybe it wont’t . There’s a very real possibility that you lose a non-negligible percent of your staff (disproportionately the most talented who have other options), handicap your ability to…

I work at a FANG (hence the throwaway), and I agree. Frankly, the COVID-19 pandemic is simply not over yet . Not in the whole world, and not even in the U.S. Especially with news about a new variant, it feels like a safety risk to re-open offices so early.

Post by hn_throwaway_99 » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 5:51 PM UTC

nklop wrote: post #248

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #42

In my experience at least talking to some younger people there is a clear dichotomy: despite all the talk about Gen Z being "digital natives", people new in their career are much hungrier to get back into the office because they don't yet have good career networks built up and they're eager for mentorship. It is older, or at least more established workers who are less keen on that. I don't think FAANGs will have any…

Not me. My career networks are online. Offices are full of people trying to give each other eating disorders through passive aggression, politics and generally pointless power games. That's the perception we have in our groups. We meet up weekly face to face to share air when possible.

Post by hn_throwaway_99 » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 5:52 PM UTC

tolbish wrote: post #94

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #42

In my experience at least talking to some younger people there is a clear dichotomy: despite all the talk about Gen Z being "digital natives", people new in their career are much hungrier to get back into the office because they don't yet have good career networks built up and they're eager for mentorship. It is older, or at least more established workers who are less keen on that. I don't think FAANGs will have any…

Vets with 5+ years of specific subdomain experience within the company's ecosystem (along with experienced engineers who have experience from elsewhere) are much harder to replace.

Post by oh_sigh » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 5:58 PM UTC

okareaman wrote: post #161

I was extremely lucky to WFH during the first 12 years of my software career. When I finally got a job in an office I was shocked at how awful it was. The 2 hours commuting every workday, the flickering fluorescent lights, the noise of coworkers, the smell of burnt coffee or popcorn, the boss that drops by to see how you're doing and causes you to lose a hour of concentration so I might as browse the web until quitti…