Curious about how reversible the unpacking is. This means near no house destruction on site.. you remove your stuff, fold it and lift it away
Modular Homes for Under $50k
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#112This kind of thing is great, though for areas where homes are expensive it's clear they'll be made illegal to remove competition for the housing cartel.
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#113This house is 375 sq ft and uses low end materials, and it doesn't include setup, so it's going to cost ~$100k, or $266 / sq ft. Most new home construction is more like $150 / sq ft. And with this system, you're very limited in what you can build. Who's the target customer for this?
In the same way a lot of products have become cheaper because of some process optimization (packaged more compactly to reduce transportation costs), I'm excited to see modular homes/home 3d-printing etc. play out and become cheaper over time until they are more affordable than convention home construction or somehow unique and better in ways that conventionally constructed homes cannot be. To answer your question, on…
The substack Construction Physics has an excellent overview of the now 100 year failed promise of modular building and the eternal cycles of the exact same value props being pitched in ambitious efforts to reform construction and why conventional construction has refused to be disrupted.
Some great posts are:
https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/building-componen...
https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/operation-breakth...
https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/construction-effi...
https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/book-review-indus...
https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/industrialized-bu...
Despite this, he's cautiously excited about some of the potential future industrialized systems such as Foldable Buildings https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/folding-at-home 3D printing https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/3d-printed-buildi... Plywood Systems https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/facit-homes-wikih... And Broad Homes https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/broad-group-part-...
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#114Doesn't look much cheaper than a regular home. Maybe faster to build, but not necessary cheaper.
It would not help battle the overvalued property prices, since in most expensive areas it's the land that drives home price up, not the building price itself.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are you basing a $50k setup cost on?
Transportation, assembly, foundation, utilities, sewage. Ive looked at similar systems myself. EDIT: They also state this in their FAQ ( https://www.boxabl.com/faq/ ): - Transportation = $2-$4 per mile from las vegas - Assembly = "Boxabl only sells room modules. We will connect you with a Boxabl certified and state licensed installer in your area." - The rest = "Whats not included in that price is your land and site…
> They also state this in their FAQ
$5k to $50k is a big range. In the video on the article about Musk's unit[1] they state they're initially targeting Accessory Dwelling Units, and specifically California's recently relaxed laws regarding them. I'm not sure the laws specifically regarding those (but there's info here[2]), but I suspect it's a lot cheaper when you're allowed to hook up to the existing house's sewer and power.
It may well be closer to $100k all said and done for a unit not set up as an ADU, but I suspect that the answer to the original question (of who this targets) is "not the people that need to pay $50k in install fees, at least not initially".
1: https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-50k-house-texas-pictures...
2: https://www.hcd.ca.gov/policy-research/accessorydwellingunit...
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Land is not scarce. We literally make as much of it as we want. What makes it scarce is legislation and zoning. Look at Manhattan or Hong Kong. You just stack the homes and offices and stores on top of each other.
Right, which is exactly why this technology does nothing to solve the problem. The housing shortage in SF isn't because they can't build like Manhattan or Hong Kong there, it's because they choose not to.
Certainly it would be possible to build higher than construction currently goes in SF, but permission is not the only reason why there are fewer skyscrapers. Manhattan and Hong Kong are essentially massive regions of granite that you can build pretty much anything on top of. That sort of geology is not particularly common. You can't just put up skyscrapers everywhere. They'd fall over eventually.
https://blog.epa.gov/2015/07/14/the-manhattan-skyline-why-ar... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_Hong_Kong
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#117For the multistory ones how do you get between stories?
Tesseracts.
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#118I don't think it compares that well to a static caravan. The price here likely includes VAT (20%) https://www.abiuk.co.uk/our-collection/the-roecliffe/
Aren’t caravans quite poorly insulated so if you heat it year round and don’t have extremely mild weather like most of UK then you’ll waste a lot of money keeping warm (or cool)? The attraction of a modular home to me would be that it can have proper construction with heavy triple glass windows and so on.
I can't tell you the specifics. I know from holidays that they have improved a lot. The newer ones have much better insulation and double glazing. Sure, they are geared towards a UK climate.
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#119It’s funny how people have this hate of trailer parks and you can just hear it in the way they talk down on it. But somehow tiny houses and modular homes that cost even less are somehow completely acceptable and beloved.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
> (wo)man 'Person' is the non-gendered word that goes here.
In old English man was gender neutral. Wer, as in werewolf, was the masculine. World comes from Wor-old, or literally, age of males.
Are there any countries or communities that currently use "old English" as their native language?