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A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He has occasionally stopped by this site: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=CliffStoll

And, still do occasionally stop by! (woke up from sleeping, and a heavy load on my raspberry-pi web server told me something was happening...)

Hah! That’s funny and cool. I mean hot.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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They're still in denial that they have a problem. Just read the thread on the previous occasion where listings got hijacked on their own fora [0] - its sad to see the sellers so powerless, helpless and just left to themselves. You really have to wonder why they even bother... Edit: also, reading that thread you can also get a feel why big brands have completely left AMZN as a platform (like Adidas, Birkenstock are a…

I hear you, Moe. Can't say that I'm a big brand. Indeed, I want to stay a small one-person shop.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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post #100

This, and other instances of this scam make me not want to buy anything off Amazon ever again. Where is Amazon in this? Why is this even a thing ? Is there no oversight at all? Amazon has now become the Alibaba of the west and it makes me sick to think the once beloved marketplace is now just scamville. I typically buy from sellers websites now and rarely buy off of Amazon but now I feel I need to completely remove A…

Amazon simply is on the same level as eBay now. (No idea about Alibaba.) It’s really sad to see.

Amazon is a more expensive AliExpress.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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post #13

Cliff - if you're reading this - you own the images they're using - time to claim copyright with Amazon ....

I have a further question. Since he has common law trademark, why wouldn't that still apply? Someone else is selling via Amazon in the US using his common law trademark.

The very first step in Amazon Brand Registry is to tell them your US Trademark registration number. Without it, I'm unable to get through the Brand Registry website. And I can't find any email address for them - nor, any place to mention this to. That's why I posted that to my website's home page.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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post #115

Buyed the real thing from his site ( https://www.kleinbottle.com/ as mentioned) 1.5 years ago. Much more to enjoy there anyway. Thanks Cliff & Greetings from Germany

Thank you M'Beex. You're why I make these one-sided things. (a tip of my hat, -Cliff)

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> B&H has been a godsend for tech Let's hope they don't go the marketplace route while chasing growth. Shopping on Amazon feels like late 90s eBay, guessing whether or not the seller is going to screw you.

> [...] feels like late 90s eBay, guessing whether or not the seller is going to screw you. Has that become any better?

I made a recent purchase for some networking equipment, but the seller had 1k+ positive ratings in the last year. Honestly, I ran across a lot of the same sellers on eBay as I did Amazon (since eBay now sells a lot of new stuff).

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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> How do people manage to figure out such elaborate ways to manipulate Amazon results without getting banned? Getting banned has minimal cost? Poor detection? Inside information? They don't actually ban the accounts doing this. They only remove the reviews/listings, but don't take any action on the accounts (so they just re-list 24 hours later) Apparently when Amazon acts, they are just removing the fake reviews, som…

> Amazon simply do not care Why though? How does this not hurt Amazon long term? What are they gaining from attracting dodgy sellers in the short term?

Retail is a low margin business, whereas being a platform for third party sellers is a high margin business. As long as their reputation amongst sufficient number of people is high enough to keep them paying for Amazon prime, then that is the most amount of effort they should put into retail.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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post #114

So, appalling scam aside, everyone knows what a Klein bottle is or what it does? First I've heard of it, and neither Stoll's site or the Amazon listing shed any light on the topic...just in-jokes.

It is mainly a joke/gag product for mathematicians, or a cool office decoration. Nothing you would buy without the background knowledge.

But second sentence in the listing:

> Like a Möbius strip, this Klein bottle has only one side. In addition, a Klein bottle has no edge - the connection from "inside" to "outside" is smooth, and the bottle has no lip.

Is proper descriptive.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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This, and other instances of this scam make me not want to buy anything off Amazon ever again. Where is Amazon in this? Why is this even a thing ? Is there no oversight at all? Amazon has now become the Alibaba of the west and it makes me sick to think the once beloved marketplace is now just scamville. I typically buy from sellers websites now and rarely buy off of Amazon but now I feel I need to completely remove A…

It's hard to give up the convenience and fast delivery (with Amazon Prime) though. In my experience, I haven't run into many problems with fraud or fake products (that I know of). I try to avoid third party sellers and only order from Amazon or the seller.
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