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Modular Homes for Under $50k

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#41
Cover [0] also has a similar business based on this. They're focused on ADUs too, but their intent seems to be to scale up over time. They're starting at $81k.

I really want a modular home ala Japan in the US, but it just doesn't seem like this market exists yet. It's much faster and efficient to build modules and assemble them onsite than it is to build "from scratch" each time.

[0]: https://buildcover.com/

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#42

For the multistory ones how do you get between stories?

In one of the carousel of images they show more box layouts [coming soon](https://www.boxabl.com/more/) including a "stair box" with a stair case leading up in the back, but there's no accompanying "upstairs" layout with a hole in the floor, so I think multi story boxes are more of an idea for the investor pitch deck at this point. I think all they are selling right now is the one layout.

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#43

This house is 375 sq ft and uses low end materials, and it doesn't include setup, so it's going to cost ~$100k, or $266 / sq ft. Most new home construction is more like $150 / sq ft. And with this system, you're very limited in what you can build. Who's the target customer for this?

I was wondering that myself. I fantasize about plopping a house down out in the desert, but their video shows a crane used to unfold it. By the time you get all the heavy machinery out there to prep the land and assemble the structure you're most of the way to just building something unique.

Once you have found the contractor to do all that, you’re all the way…and off the end of the runway with two points of failure and no single responsibility when things don’t line up.

And the contractor is only making overhead and profit on half the work of a tiny budget which means that you are not a priority…even if the construction cycle was flat which it isn’t.

The efficiency of the market is why people don’t build this way much. As Heinlein says every generation thinks it invented sex. They think they invented modular housing too I think.

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#44
post #25

This house is 375 sq ft and uses low end materials, and it doesn't include setup, so it's going to cost ~$100k, or $266 / sq ft. Most new home construction is more like $150 / sq ft. And with this system, you're very limited in what you can build. Who's the target customer for this?

In the same way a lot of products have become cheaper because of some process optimization (packaged more compactly to reduce transportation costs), I'm excited to see modular homes/home 3d-printing etc. play out and become cheaper over time until they are more affordable than convention home construction or somehow unique and better in ways that conventionally constructed homes cannot be. To answer your question, on…

If you are rich, there are a lot of options that are likely to better cater to your richness. Or why build a 50k shed on a million dollar piece of ground?

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#45

And then $80k to install between new electrical box, getting raked over the coals by your local water/sewer district, having to build a foundation, stairs from door, etc., etc. And your property taxes will go up.

This comment deserves to be higher. People just think you can put these anywhere but you need water connection, sewer connection, electrical, telephone line/cable, permits and red tape, by the time you're done it'll be double. And I don't think these solve any of our housing affordability problems, the land in a desirable area will be far more expensive than what's on top.

Re: Modular Homes for Under $50k

#46

This house is 375 sq ft and uses low end materials, and it doesn't include setup, so it's going to cost ~$100k, or $266 / sq ft. Most new home construction is more like $150 / sq ft. And with this system, you're very limited in what you can build. Who's the target customer for this?

A boom town where labour is really expensive and there is an acute housing shortage ??

Or someone who thinks it's the future and love telling his or her guests about it. Or someone who's fascinated by IKEA furniture.

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#47

I imagine the margin isn't there for it, but I wish someone would target the I'd have to guess the market just isn't there for it, maybe everyone else just doesn't mind dealing with the building codes and permit requirements for larger units?

There’s only going to be two types of customers for that. The Uber rich who can afford spending multiple thousands of dollars in what’s effectively a private hotel room you can install wherever you have land, and the extremely poor who will live in them because it is the maximum they can afford.

The negative PR from the latter set of clients can’t possibly be worth how much margin they can get from the former, especially when hotels exist in every city, town, and village.

There’s still probably a market for something that size from people who can afford 30k+ to handle the static costs of building a luxury cabin in the country and are still price conscious enough to want to limit how much they spend on building.

It’s extremely unlikely that there’s a market for deplorable houses this size that also fits in a middle class budget like 2k would

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#48

I imagine the margin isn't there for it, but I wish someone would target the I'd have to guess the market just isn't there for it, maybe everyone else just doesn't mind dealing with the building codes and permit requirements for larger units?

There's an economic problem with well made smaller homes - they have all the detail of a larger home without the square footage. Hence the cost per square foot is much larger than you would expect.

I’m in the middle of trying to figure this out with a friend by building an off-grid tiny house and this is pretty accurate. With our labor at a nominal rate (30/hr) it’s coming out to about $250 per square foot. We think on the next one we might be able to get down to $200 maybe $175.

Interior is not done yet, but exterior is: https://imgur.com/gallery/KbPlbPR

That 250 psf includes everything you need to live from the get go except you have to fill the 50-gallon water tank.

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#49
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> sub-standard housing > increase the density of suburban neighborhoods that weren't designed for it GP's vision of how this hurts the lower class seems readily apparent.

If the ADU is sub-standard, then the lower class can choose to not live there. I didn't ask about the density statement, I understand the argument the GP made.

> If the ADU is sub-standard, then the lower class can choose to not live there.

Buddy, not for nothing but that sentence could be a textbook definition of a synonym for “Let them eat cake”

Are the lower class supposed to use their vast sums of savings to choose more expensive housing? If a 20 year old Toyota Corolla with 200k miles is substandard for them can they simply choose to buy new?

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#50

This house is 375 sq ft and uses low end materials, and it doesn't include setup, so it's going to cost ~$100k, or $266 / sq ft. Most new home construction is more like $150 / sq ft. And with this system, you're very limited in what you can build. Who's the target customer for this?

I was wondering that myself. I fantasize about plopping a house down out in the desert, but their video shows a crane used to unfold it. By the time you get all the heavy machinery out there to prep the land and assemble the structure you're most of the way to just building something unique.

My friend and I were having a similar fantasy of putting places like that all over the western US so we started with a one-off project to build a tiny house so that it can just be “plopped” down (or rather rolled in).

How big were you thinking? Something like 400 SF? Or a proper house?

As I said in another comment on this thread I think it’s possible to build something totally custom for a similar budget (200-250 psf) as long as it’s on a trailer because you avoid most of the code and inspection issues in several western states by putting it on wheels.

https://imgur.com/gallery/KbPlbPR

Still working on the interior but this house is built better than my actual house in a high-cost market in California. It is super tiny though (200 sf and that includes the loft).

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