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Incremental note-taking

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Re: Incremental note-taking

#11

Shameless self-promotion: I've built an app - thinktype[1] - that I think fulfills three of these four principles: > Captured ideas are better than missed ones. > Ideas that can’t be recalled are worse than useless – effective search and recall form the soul of great notes. In thinktype, you write and search notes at the same time. You can start both writing and searching (which are the same) right when you open the…

The "search and entry are the same" thing reminds me of Notational Velocity / nvALT. I think it makes editing multiple things at the same time difficult, but generally feels really nice.

Re: Incremental note-taking

#12

Shameless self-promotion: I've built an app - thinktype[1] - that I think fulfills three of these four principles: > Captured ideas are better than missed ones. > Ideas that can’t be recalled are worse than useless – effective search and recall form the soul of great notes. In thinktype, you write and search notes at the same time. You can start both writing and searching (which are the same) right when you open the…

The "search and entry are the same" thing reminds me of Notational Velocity / nvALT. I think it makes editing multiple things at the same time difficult, but generally feels really nice.

The way to edit multiple notes at the same time is just to have multiple tabs open. Thinktype is optimized for that workflow. It loads fast, it updates the title based on the note you currently edit and when you edit a note which is visible in another tab, thinktype updates the note there too.

Re: Incremental note-taking

#13
I used to think about this a ton, and then I just gave up and went with an independently created clone of Christine Dodrill's method - take a notebook, write the things you want to do, write about them, and use a new page for the next day. I can confidently say that it's fine.

Re: Incremental note-taking

#14

No discussion of Workflowy ( https://workflowy.com/ )? It is, in my opinion, by far the best note-taking app I have used. You can search, reorganize, and freely move content as you take it, and also after. You can nest a whole campaign of D&D notes next to your favorite recipes, and it feels natural due to their focus level model. More importantly, it's absolutely dead simple, and it "gets out of the way." The author…

oh wow. workflowy is a amazing. I need to dump onenote for this i think

Re: Incremental note-taking

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I can’t imagine not being able to modify an existing note. What if I made a typo? That would drive me up the wall.

I’m currently using Craft. Previously I used Simplenote and, before that, Notational Velocity (and nvALT). My standard for notes now is that it needs to be fast, it needs decent search, and its data needs to be portable.

Re: Incremental note-taking

#17
Great deep dive into core principles of a good note-taking system. There are a few things I'd add. Curious to hear your thoughts.

> 1) Captured ideas are better than missed ones

> 2) Adding new ideas is better than updating old ones. Updating notes in-place is inherently lossy, and I think it’s unnecessary.

Yes. And, setting the intention to "add," not "update" reduces friction to capturing.

When you write something in a "source of truth" - like a wiki - you've now made a commitment to keep it updated. (It's a commitment you probably don't want to keep). So, what do you do? You don't write stuff there. Instead you write it somewhere more ephemeral like Slack or a scratchpad.

Setting the expectation that your notes are to be "added to," not "updated" lets you add notes with more ease.

> 3) Ideas that can’t be recalled are worse than useless > Regardless of how you recall information back from your notes, a great note-taking system should make it trivial to get ideas out, as well as in.

Two things I'd add here are

i) It should be easy to deliver ideas to the right location (not just to recall them).

This means copy-paste should be fast. Your notes should use integrations with the tools you use to make it easy to get them there in a snap. If there's a lot of friction to getting notes organized or shared, you're less likely to do it. It's also just annoying to have to highlight text, pull it apart with your mouse, open the app you need, and paste it in.

ii) Most of what you need to recall is actually very simple to find. It's what you recently wrote.

Most of what's most important from personal working notes is stuff that's immediately relevant. Stuff that was probably written in the past week or so. This explains why so many people use Apple Notes. It's messy but it's fast to get things down and you usually can find what you need using the recency filter.

> 4) Time is essential to how we remember, and should be a first-class concept in a good note-taking system.

YES YES YES. And the stuff that we need the most right now is most likely to be stuff we wrote recently.

At https://bytebase.io we're building the fastest notepad for engineers. Our focus is on the notes that are most helpful to you as you do your work today.

Re: Incremental note-taking

#18
Reading this was a “you read my mind” experience. Feels good to hear someone consider the same problems and come to similar conclusions. I’ve been daydreaming of building some append-only search-first note taking app for a while, love the insights here!

Re: Incremental note-taking

#20
post #19

Shameless plug: I built https://www.instanote.io . It has threads which I personally use a lot to do incremental note taking and tracking.

"Threads" is an interesting concept on which to build an incremental note taking system. I know folks who keep a CRM by emailing themselves after conversations, on a separate email thread for each person. I also know folks who use a personal Slack workspace like this, with thread support. Maybe threads are a good building block for this kind of stuff.
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