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Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Yes, but you still need to click the link, open in the browser. I don’t trust the average restaurant to make correct security decisions on their online menu/payment system. So pass.

Most restaurants I’ve been to have their QR code link to a PDF and not an ordering website with payments.

That’s a worse user experience.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Assuming there was another restaurant nearby, I'd have simplified the process to "go outside". If a restaurant is too cheap to print a menu, why should I consider it good enough for me?

With covid, many restaurants removed paper menus to avoid transmission. I hate QR codes so that was a move I was not in favour of.....

That is all fine, but then they should find a better way to secure their WiFi Network to allow easy access to the Menu

I.e Not have a captive portal if your only going to the menu, have the captive portal if you want full access to the internet

Clearly they cheaped out on hiring a network company that setup their wifi wrong

If I have jump through a bunch of hurtles to view your menu I am out

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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I've had a waiter looking at me puzzled why my phone wasn't able to scan a QR code. I told him already that my camera wasn't able to. But I had to open the camera in front of him. - "Have you tried rotating the camera?" - "Try zooming in and out" - "Why don't you download a QR code app!?" These questions / remarks were placed by him while showing him it really didn't work. When I told him I didn't want to download a…

I seriously hope Google pushes their OEM to include QR code support in the builtin camera app. This should be a default feature. That said, if you want a privacy-friendly QR Code reader app on Android, Binary Eye is my recommendation. GitHub: https://github.com/markusfisch/BinaryEye Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.markusfisch... F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/packages/de.markusfisch.android…

It's called "Lens" mode in the camera app, and isn't obvious to find, but it's there.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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How is this entitlement? Dining at a restaurant is a luxury, if I’m going to spend my money on a luxury, I’m going to choose an experience that is safe, enjoyable, and to my interests. Why are you so upset? Why do you feel that the conditions in place are acceptable? Personally, I grew up quite poor and never got to go to restaurants. It wasn’t until I started making a little money in my late 20s that I could start t…

> why do you feel like the conditions in place are acceptable? “Acceptable”? To whom? This is why you sound entitled. The alternative is not dining out . You make it sound like restaurants are letting you down or should try harder . The word “acceptable” has no place in this conversation. It’s fine that you don’t want to go out to restaurants right now. But you’re complaining about how inconvenient it is for you like…

> To whom? This is why you sound entitled.

> you’re complaining

> All of this makes me upset because it sounds extremely insensitive.

> The world is mourning millions of dead

> a bit more empathy.

You're attacking a person for their honest opinion while knowing almost nothing about them, their life etc. In fact you sound angry and insensitive, please keep your emotions under control

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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On the general topic of "technology in restaurants", I've noticed an increasing number of restaurants where the waitstaff uses phones/tablets with some kind of specialized app. This happens often: we start telling them our order, and they have to say "wait a sec.... (taps phone for several seconds) okay what was that?". The "UX" as a patron is pretty bad compared to the waitstaff just whipping out a notepad and scrib…

Several of the large chains already have pay at table kiosk's I have always wondered why they just do not have order at table as well... I am waiting for the first restaurant that only has Cooks and Food Runners with no traditional waitstaff... This will likely coincide with the removal of tipping as a custom in the US. We will move to kiosk ordering, press a button to get drink refills, pay at the table, and leave.

Tipping isn’t going away, an entire industry of wage suppression and exploitation is based on it

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

#367

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With covid, many restaurants removed paper menus to avoid transmission. I hate QR codes so that was a move I was not in favour of.....

Restaurants open during the pandemic has been a joke. Outside in a tent/wood box never fixed any problem. I have not been to a restaurant since March 2020. Going to different restaurants was my favorite hobby, but the experience has become so hostile that I won’t go back until I can sit inside without a mask, have a menu, and not have to worry about a coughing idiot.

I am sorry you live in an area that does not respect freedom.

Around here in door dining was only closed for a couple of weeks maybe a month or so. Then it was 50% capacity for a few months, then 75%, and we have been fully open for in door dinning for several months now

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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Apple Pay is no more of a hurdle/mitm than whatever payment gateway they were using.

Things are not "good" because somebody made you feel it is comfortable. 800 Euro for an Apple device, account at Apple, network connection with provider and full battery - together with a credit card and all of that is no hurdle? You can just pay immediately with cash. And nobody will be informed about it! Words of critique upon Apple are usually not welcome here. When I look how bad entitlement handling is with MacO…

I'm not endorsing Apple Pay, but I also don't carry cash, so how am I supposed to pay? Sure I can pay by card, but now the credit card company knows what I'm buying. Also that involves another person who has to come accept the payment which I could've done in peace on my phone using Apple/Google pay. Not everyone want to carry cash around.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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QR menus are fantastic here. It's such a pleasurable experience. No more menus with something taped or scribbled on it due to a pricing adjustment. Given the proliferation of languages spoken here, people frequently take a menu and run it through Google Translate, literally getting restaurants more business as a result.

It's at the point where I just find paper menus antiquated and aggravating. Heck, many places just pass out tablets now, for the same reason. It's literally easier to pass out cheap tablets with the menu already loaded as a PDF, than it is to deal with paper.

Re: Bring back menus, QR codes are terrible

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post #357

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Several of the large chains already have pay at table kiosk's I have always wondered why they just do not have order at table as well... I am waiting for the first restaurant that only has Cooks and Food Runners with no traditional waitstaff... This will likely coincide with the removal of tipping as a custom in the US. We will move to kiosk ordering, press a button to get drink refills, pay at the table, and leave.

Tipping isn’t going away, an entire industry of wage suppression and exploitation is based on it

Except it is not, but ok.

I bet you are one of those people that believe wait staff only make $2/hr right?

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