So I will probably soon buy more Bitcoin as I believe the price will in the long run go up. Tether (USDT) is a huge liability that could cause a temporary crash. But at the same time you see some regulation changing that e.g. allows banks to be custodians for crypto-currencies. In my opinion this is huge. It means that eventually institutional investors can buy Bitcoin and other cryptos without having to worry about…
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tesla is the absolute world leader in battery manufacturing. A lot of people are betting on that as well. Tesla has a lot of things going for it if you project what we are going to need in the future. I’m not saying it is a good/bad investment but their entire car business could fade away and they could still be doing mega-business in other “green” business lines.
That was Panasonic, and for the China market they switched to the same pouch cells as everyone else.
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#113Someone that was predicted to own 5% (1mm) of all Bitcoins just died in Costa Rica I doubt they had a survivorship and secession plan for their bitcoins and I doubt Bitcoins become less scarce Shorting Microstrategy and Coinbase via puts are good ideas though. Microstrategy isnt overleveraged yet but its easy for them to be. Coinbase is just a share dump, thats the entire purpose of direct listings. This has nothing…
> I doubt they had a survivorship and secession plan for their bitcoins You're speculating though. Any information to back that up?
You would just add this to other assumptions about unmoved bitcoin, where over time you would look for the days destroyed the metric, aka how many bitcoins have remained unmoved for how long. It is decent news when old bitcoins are moved, and until that occurs they can be assumed to never move, especially when they are in version 1 addresses.
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#114Derivatives guy here. Perfectly fine opinion, but two issues. Why now? This is a general investing issue. Trading costs money, holding a put costs money, so why will the market do what you think in this time frame? Why are the puts cheap? This could be substantiated with some numbers, esp implied volatility. Are they cheap vs history? I don't know, but the reasoning should show why you think so. Note I'm not looking…
Except if you believe, as the author does, that the entire market is just scams and insider manipulation there is no meaning to be gleaned from any of the numbers. If it's all a sham it will blow up at some point, it's just a question of when, but that will almost certainly be precipitated by some unpredictable external event.
By buying puts on bitcoin (derivatives), they’re not only betting that they’re correct, but also that something will happen in the next 5-6 months that will catalyze the market to correct that valuation. They don’t have any thesis at all for what’s going to catalyze this correction over the next 5-6 months. Their entire investment thesis is that “[they’d] be astonished if we get through 2021 without an explosion”. The investment described in this blog post is just a crypto-bear yolo play, with less thought put into it than your average r/WSB post.
Edit: looking at the options chain for the BTC ETF they’re shorting, NTM puts are trading at $2, so the underlying has to lose about 1/3rd of its value for that trade to break even. If it goes to $0, their maximum profit is ~$400 per ~$200 contract. That’s certainly not a cheap contract.
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#115I love this sort of thing. He’s making a bet, explains his reasoning, and does it in the open! That’s great. I disagree that there’s no tech here. IMO public ledgers that never sleep are far superior(thanks to the hard work of many people over the past decade), and their advantage over retail banking will only increase. My online banks keep getting worse, crypto keeps getting better. Think about this: banks are CLOSE…
The amount of time it takes for me to move my own money between my own accounts pisses me off mightily. I can pay to have an "instant" transfer but that is just double dipping by the banks for a service that should be provided in the cost I'm already paying for my accounts. Crypto currently has far greater UX challenges but once these are fixed this is where crypto can win.
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#116“No real world use” for bitcoin and other crypto currencies: ok so the goods I bought for years with bitcoin do not exist? And the trading market you are playing on are not a real world use case?
“ These practices have run rampant on every financial market in human history that hasn’t regulated against them fiercely. Why should Bitcoin be any different?”. That’s the ultimate authoritative argument. “Everybody knows”, “obviously”, etc. Please back up with facts and don’t make general claims like that.
USDT: totally agree. But then don’t trade with usdt. Bitcoin not easily convertible to cash ? Maybe you should pickup a more serious trading desk. On boarding is much more restrictive than mainstream platforms like binance but nothing is more untrue that bitcoin is not liquid. You can settle trades in USD (not USDT) instantly with a serious regulated broker.
Limitations of bitcoin: mining, fees, other. Agree, but nothing of these problems makes bitcoin an insider scam. Is there is a problem there is a solution. Who says that these shortcomings can’t be solved ?
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#117Many traders still predict Bitcoin to be over 100k by the end of the year. December could align with the bubble peak due to Bitcoin‘s investment cycle triggered by the halving events. That could wreck his short position but if he’s lucky, it will burst earlier.
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#118Derivatives guy here. Perfectly fine opinion, but two issues. Why now? This is a general investing issue. Trading costs money, holding a put costs money, so why will the market do what you think in this time frame? Why are the puts cheap? This could be substantiated with some numbers, esp implied volatility. Are they cheap vs history? I don't know, but the reasoning should show why you think so. Note I'm not looking…
Except if you believe, as the author does, that the entire market is just scams and insider manipulation there is no meaning to be gleaned from any of the numbers. If it's all a sham it will blow up at some point, it's just a question of when, but that will almost certainly be precipitated by some unpredictable external event.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
The difference is Tesla makes cars, good cars, that people can use. Bitcoin makes "investors."
OK, but Tesla makes cars that catch fire while parked, and their "profit" comes from selling carbon credits to GM and Fiat. I agree Tesla is less of a pyramid scheme, but I think it's still a pyramid scheme.
As for credits making their profits, first it's like saying early Anazon could never turn profitable and second, just wait for the P/L report of this 2020Q2. You're in for a big surprise (my bet: profitable without counting credits amd even S/X sales!)
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Cryptocurrency is a beautiful technology On the surface, ya, but the proof-of-waste at its centre should be reason enough to consider the technology more harmful than not.
Thankfully most cryptos are moving to proof-of-stake.
In contrast, it's not possible to steal a majority of PoW mining power, and sit on it for an extended period, without (a) foregoing a large profit, and (b) risking that others acquire more mining power than you have.
One of the Cardano whitepapers [1] contains a good summary of the advantages of PoW over PoS in Section 5.1.1 under "Consequences of PoS vs PoW":
A crucial difference exists between PoS and PoW at the network layer, with significant design consequences: in PoW-based systems, proof-of-work itself gives honest nodes an advantage over adversarial nodes (as listed below), and this enables system designs that are simpler and more modular. There is no such advantage for honest nodes in PoS-based systems such as Ouroboros.
In PoW systems:
• The number of different block headers with a valid PoW that can be constructed (over any given period of time) is bounded by the total available hashing power in the world. In Bitcoin for example this is one header every ten minutes on average.
• The header PoW can be checked with little computational cost. This does not require any significant or recent state, only a vaguely-recent lower bound on the hashing difficulty value is needed.
• Such a cheap and simple test can be easily integrated into existing distributed algorithms such as broadcast algorithms.
By contrast, with PoS in Ouroboros:
• There is no equivalent of the PoW check that is expensive for the adversaries and cheap for the honest nodes: adversaries can create many apparently valid or actually valid candidate headers or whole chains.
• Block headers can only be fully validated with access to a very recent copy of the full ledger state, and the other preceding headers – which is not a simple stateless check.
• Having the full ledger state relies on the other two pieces of Ouroboros functionality: chain validation and chain selection
[1] https://hydra.iohk.io/build/6684352/download/1/network-desig...