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Re: Miki – A lightweight wiki for team documentation

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Post by mimixco » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 12:54 PM UTC

mchusma wrote: post #6

My feedback was that I could not find an example, with a sidebar on mobile at all. There was a hamburger button on the bottom, but it just pulled up a menu for marketing. For example, the user guide appeared to be 1 page, no menu/table of contents at all on mobile? For me, good documentation consists of a good, clear menu organized like a table of contents, and good representation of information. For me, either your…

I totally agree on documentation and navigation. I wrote a lot about that in the Miki doc itself!

On the nav, there simply isn't room on a mobile device for a full menu down the side, so Wiki.js (on which Miki is built) draws a hamburger menu at the bottom.

Since you were visiting our sales site, all the links are about sales. The Users Guide page doesn't have separate nav down the side but it is navigable in that all the sections there are clickable and go to their own deep pages.

I hope you'll give us another look (maybe on desktop!) and see if Miki can meet your needs. If there's a better way to present the nav on mobile, we're certainly open to it.

Re: Miki – A lightweight wiki for team documentation

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Post by mimixco » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 12:55 PM UTC

orf wrote: post #5

ebzzry wrote: post #4

Hi everyone, co-founder here. I’d like to know about your experience in using Test Drive. If you’re curious about how we did it, ask us here!

It seems to just 502 for me. For example http://maea3.streamsharing.io/

BTW, that instance is live now! Sorry for the bug. :-)

Re: Miki – A lightweight wiki for team documentation

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Post by flakiness » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 5:34 PM UTC

For freemium seekers: There is none (Not complaining about that, just FYI.)

This seems like a hosted version of Wiki.js basically? I see there is some need. One of my friend does host Wiki.js for his personal use because it's OSS.

Re: Miki – A lightweight wiki for team documentation

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Post by mimixco » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 7:33 PM UTC

flakiness wrote: post #13

For freemium seekers: There is none (Not complaining about that, just FYI.) This seems like a hosted version of Wiki.js basically? I see there is some need. One of my friend does host Wiki.js for his personal use because it's OSS.

Awesome comment. Thank you. Freemium is coming soon. Test Drive is the technological proof that we can do it and not shoot ourselves in the foot on costs. So, please Test Drive and let me know how it goes! I'll definitely post here when Freemium is live.

We started with Wiki.js because it's a good vehicle for our Secret Sauce, which is MSL[0], a language for fixing stuff while you write. That will also be added to Miki soon but we needed somewhere to put it.

Along the way, we found out there's a big need for hosted Wiki.js that isn't DIY. We're aiming for folks who could do it themselves and don't want to, and those that really couldn't.

We've removed all of the telemetry from Wiki.js and packaged it to run on the desktop without any setup. We also added the Inter font and upgraded the FontAwesome icons to pro. We removed some cruft from the UI (and much, much more pruning is coming). We'll also be adding some new stuff like link checking and a better media library. The developer of Wiki.js is going in a different path and doesn't actively offer hosting or support.

In addition to the fully offline version, we sell it hosted in individual VMs, deployed instantly without setup. And we offer a lot of support and customization services along with a growing set of training videos and documentation (all in Miki, of course) so that we continue to add value to our hosting product.

Finally, we've come up with a really cool set of CI/CD tools that enterprises (like us) can use to manage thousands of these Mikis in the wild. It can reach into a running copy and alter its code, contents, and settings. We see a lot of use for this in big organizations that have many teams, each who will need their own Mikis but also have content in common and require central management. Our competitors in that enterprise space are more restrictive and have a higher barrier to entry, we think.

Thanks again for looking and if your friend wants to start before Freemium, we offer the full banana[1] free for 14 days.

[0] https://nebula.mimix.io/en/msl/specs

[1] https://miki.mimix.io/en/public/free-trial

Re: Miki – A lightweight wiki for team documentation

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Post by Stratoscope » Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 6:04 AM UTC

When I click the edit button it goes to a dark theme. I didn’t see an option for a light theme, or did I miss it? I can’t use dark themes.

Re: Miki – A lightweight wiki for team documentation

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Post by jauco » Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 6:47 AM UTC

mimixco wrote: post #14

flakiness wrote: post #13

For freemium seekers: There is none (Not complaining about that, just FYI.) This seems like a hosted version of Wiki.js basically? I see there is some need. One of my friend does host Wiki.js for his personal use because it's OSS.

Awesome comment. Thank you. Freemium is coming soon. Test Drive is the technological proof that we can do it and not shoot ourselves in the foot on costs. So, please Test Drive and let me know how it goes! I'll definitely post here when Freemium is live. We started with Wiki.js because it's a good vehicle for our Secret Sauce, which is MSL[0], a language for fixing stuff while you write. That will also be added to Mi…

The mimix whitepaper seems to be offline. (No longer in wp-content) would love to read more about your ideas!

Re: Miki – A lightweight wiki for team documentation

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Post by ebzzry » Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 8:58 AM UTC

jauco wrote: post #16

mimixco wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Awesome comment. Thank you. Freemium is coming soon. Test Drive is the technological proof that we can do it and not shoot ourselves in the foot on costs. So, please Test Drive and let me know how it goes! I'll definitely post here when Freemium is live. We started with Wiki.js because it's a good vehicle for our Secret Sauce, which is MSL[0], a language for fixing stuff while you write. That will also be added to Mi…

The mimix whitepaper seems to be offline. (No longer in wp-content) would love to read more about your ideas!

The whitepaper is now at https://mimix.io/pdf/on_mimix_v1.3.pdf

Re: Miki – A lightweight wiki for team documentation

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Post by philderbeast » Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 9:46 AM UTC

interesting that when you click the compare features, it claims 100% open source, but they dont seem to have any links to the source anywhere.

Re: Miki – A lightweight wiki for team documentation

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Post by aorth » Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 9:53 AM UTC

I still prefer Dokuwiki: it's open source and doesn't need a database. Pretty simple to run, and not one more thing to maintain. I have eleven years of internal infrastructure and organization notes in there, as well as user-facing docs.

Re: Miki – A lightweight wiki for team documentation

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Post by mekster » Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 10:36 AM UTC

aorth wrote: post #19

I still prefer Dokuwiki: it's open source and doesn't need a database. Pretty simple to run, and not one more thing to maintain . I have eleven years of internal infrastructure and organization notes in there, as well as user-facing docs.

It's getting too old that it's showing its age badly.

I'm tired of editing wiki with some original markup but WYSIWYG is the way to go. A plugin to integrate CKEditor doesn't even properly work, mobile experience is not optimal and authentication hooks are way behind wikis like Wiki.js.