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#51
Can you share a sample report that your site can generate? I am on mobile and can only see one animation.

One product that I could see myself paying for is an app that poisons data brokers' profiles of me, but this, I am guessing, would be pretty hard to do.

Re: Show HN: Optery – See the private info data brokers are posting about you online

#52
post #44

Congratulations on launching! I signed up to take a look around. I’m excited that your free tier includes deep links to remove yourself. What I would like more than this is a way to feed fake data into the system. Inadvertently I have done so in a variety of ways, such that I regularly receive AARP advertising materials and my landline is on a myriad of robocall lists for senior citizen scams. I would love to see a w…

Thanks for the good vibes, and glad you found the deep links useful!

To your second point about introducing "noise" into your profile at data brokers to make it more useless. That's an interesting idea, but unfortunately, not something we would touch at Operty. Data brokers have hundreds of upstream partners who supply them with information to enrich their profile on you. We send opt out requests to data brokers, and nothing else.

Re: Show HN: Optery – See the private info data brokers are posting about you online

#53
post #52
post #44

Congratulations on launching! I signed up to take a look around. I’m excited that your free tier includes deep links to remove yourself. What I would like more than this is a way to feed fake data into the system. Inadvertently I have done so in a variety of ways, such that I regularly receive AARP advertising materials and my landline is on a myriad of robocall lists for senior citizen scams. I would love to see a w…

Thanks for the good vibes, and glad you found the deep links useful! To your second point about introducing "noise" into your profile at data brokers to make it more useless. That's an interesting idea, but unfortunately, not something we would touch at Operty. Data brokers have hundreds of upstream partners who supply them with information to enrich their profile on you. We send opt out requests to data brokers, and…

I figured you wouldn’t touch it, since you’re a legitimate business and all. But … as previous employees at such data broker companies there must be some strategies that individuals could take to do so :)

Re: Show HN: Optery – See the private info data brokers are posting about you online

#54
post #48

All you need to know: > If you purchase a paid subscription plan, as a condition to fulfilling your subscription plan, (i) you must provide your personally identifiable information(“PII”) such as full name, birth year and home address to Optery, Inc. and (ii) Optery, Inc. must send your PII to the data brokers and information aggregators included in the Removal Lists. This information is required by the data brokers…

> you approve Optery, Inc. to submit your PII to data brokers and information aggregators for the purposes submitting opt out, suppression and removal requests I've successfully removed my address from almost every data broker without giving out this information. One who had my old address initially wanted more of my info to remove my info, so instead of doing that, I sent them a cease and desist, and that worked. Ca…

Could you share your cease and desist template?

Re: Show HN: Optery – See the private info data brokers are posting about you online

#55
Aren't these sites all extortion schemes? If you guys are offering to remove someone's info from a site like that, it must mean that you're either hacking into their databases, or you're working with them.

I can see the value proposition here for those sites, because potential victims probably decide to not pay because they see that their information is posted in a lot of sites, and taking them all down would be too expensive. Having a centralized (and clean/fancy looking) service like yours could convince those people to finally pay up, and the profits are split between the network sites.

Or am I completely misunderstanding this?

Re: Show HN: Optery – See the private info data brokers are posting about you online

#56
post #47

> After many years working at data brokers So you worked for years at (immoral) data harvesters but now you're a changed man who pinky swears to not use people's data they submit to you in a bad way? Sorry, I don't trust this product yet.

I see this like a hacker who grows up and realizes that what they did before was wrong. People change. And the best people to address these issues head on- unfortunately- almost always started on the “wrong” side of the issue. Speaking from personal experience, you can reform yourself.

>Speaking from personal experience, you can reform yourself.

I 100% agree that people can reform themselves, but I also can just as easily see it not happening. Currently the product is "trust me" with little other than that as far as I can see. If they go the distance to make sure everything is fully transparent then I would be more neutral. But when my personal data is on the line I try to be a bit more skeptical.

Re: Show HN: Optery – See the private info data brokers are posting about you online

#58
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only way I'd trust such a service is if it's domain name ends in .gov (or equivalent for other countries) and is free or a nominal fee.

The USDS should work on stuff like this. https://www.usds.gov

This feels like FTC territory. USDS is more about provisioning services AFAIK. However, new regulations would be required, and I don't really see that happening.

Re: Show HN: Optery – See the private info data brokers are posting about you online

#59
Make sure you actually read their ToS and Privacy Policy. This is nearly useless at best and harmful at worst.

"If you purchase a paid subscription plan, as a condition to fulfilling your subscription plan, (i) you must provide your personally identifiable information(“PII”) such as full name, birth year and home address to Optery, Inc. and (ii) Optery, Inc. must send your PII to the data brokers and information aggregators included in the Removal Lists. This information is required by the data brokers and information aggregators in order to locate your record(s) and remove you from their database(s). We cannot control, guarantee or warranty how these third-parties will treat your PII or what they will do with it."

Re: Show HN: Optery – See the private info data brokers are posting about you online

#60
post #11

Be very careful with any tool like this; you'll need to prove who you are by verifying an email address and / or phone number to your real name, which in turn will most likely "confirm" your data with all the upstream brokers (if you pay for some extra service you're twice a sucker with them most likely getting paid by brokers for proving your identity and by you as well for using the "service"). Note: this could be…

yeah, we need to make this kind of data harvesting 100% illegal, and then, tada, no catch 22 to deal with! it’s a non-sequitur to negotiate how much data can be collected and stored by random third parties. the answer should be an unequivocal “none”. then as a nice byproduct, we wouldn’t have stupid equifax mass data leaks every other month.
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