I recommend trying to hit Reader mode button to defeat Fuck You patterns. This simple trick works on surprisingly many websites, because they need to conform with Google SEO rules.
The 'Fuck You' Pattern
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#232I don't like stikcy header,s so I use the Kill Sticky bookmarklet ( https://alisdair.mcdiarmid.org/kill-sticky-headers/ )
When I do this, some websites do the same thing, i.e. don't let me scroll down.
I think calling this the Fuck You pattern is entirely appropriate.
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#233I love instagram. It's the best social media site. Last time I checked, I couldn't even make an account from my desktop computer. I'm not gonna even try to install their app on my G-free phone. When a friends sends me a link to Instagram, I know that I don't need to click on it -- the thumbnail contains all the information that I'd ever see without creating an account. When news articles consist of a bunch of embedde…
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#234"Wow, fuck you. I just wanted to look at cats." "Well, fuck you, too. We're here to sell ads." It's not about dark patterns, that's just a second-order effect. It was never about dark patterns. This is the implied agreement. You understand it, or you don't. And if you don't, I guess you haven't been on the web in the past decade or something. What? You thought it was fair that a company spends millions in technical i…
Kinda offtopic but Instagram's ads changed my attitude towards ads, and my attitude towards Facebook's creepy level of insight into my life and personality. If they have that data anyway -- and hundreds of companies do -- I might as well benefit from it, and Instagram's ads were the first ones that I actually found interesting. First of all, it was obvious when something was an ad. Second, they weren't intrusive or o…
> If they have that data anyway -- and hundreds of companies do -- I might as well benefit from it, and Instagram's ads were the first ones that I actually found interesting.
I always feel a little depressed when someone describes being more effectively manipulated as "benefiting."
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#235> Since I’m a technical person, I tried to simply remove the modal in the browser Inspector. It sort of worked, but I wasn’t able to scroll any further on the page.
^ try finding the container of the content that has its overflow set to 'hidden', and change it back to auto. Then you should be able to scroll again
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#236Fuck you patterns are everywhere on the web nowaday. Some of the most annoying to me: Twitch trying to discourage the use of the embedded player/non official players (like VLC) by replacing the content by a fullscreen purple picture asking you to watch on twitch.tv. Reddit trying to force mobile user to use the reddit app as soon as the content is marked NSFW. Instagram forcing me to login to view pictures. Twitter a…
Another one is the "can I help you" chat box that pops up.
Intercom and the likes.
Thinking about making a Chrome plugin that intentionally asks some nonsense questions programmatically in the background to waste their time and disincentivize that behavior.
(To be clear, I love having chat channels for sales and support, just NOT unsolicited "Can I help you" popups.)
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#237"Wow, fuck you. I just wanted to look at cats." "Well, fuck you, too. We're here to sell ads." It's not about dark patterns, that's just a second-order effect. It was never about dark patterns. This is the implied agreement. You understand it, or you don't. And if you don't, I guess you haven't been on the web in the past decade or something. What? You thought it was fair that a company spends millions in technical i…
Ads are fine. The "fuck you" pattern is letting you see the cat picture for 5 seconds before covering it up and requiring you to create an account and share your data with Facebook before you can see it.
Everyone everywhere has realized throughout the ages that conversion of anything is higher when you get a demo of the product.
This isn't a "fuck you" pattern. They gave you a social media Costco food sample.
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#238"Wow, fuck you. I just wanted to look at cats." "Well, fuck you, too. We're here to sell ads." It's not about dark patterns, that's just a second-order effect. It was never about dark patterns. This is the implied agreement. You understand it, or you don't. And if you don't, I guess you haven't been on the web in the past decade or something. What? You thought it was fair that a company spends millions in technical i…
They can still have ads for people that don't create an account. I think the point you are trying to make is that people are demanding free (as in beer) content, a la WinAmp of the 1990's. In the past 20 years, we've come around out of that greedy phase and have come to accept a certain amount of advertising for content. But when the non-free content dominates the free content (e.g. pinterest's SEO), it's a fuck you…
An important point is that WinAmp was not hosting content, so the cost was limited to the relatively small development cost. And there's still lots of that around.
Once you get into actual hosting, it's very hard to get past a small number of users without a lot of funding. And since a lot of users don't want to pay, well...
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pinterest and Reddit are not better these days. The amount of things you can view on reddit on your phone without creating an account or installing the app is dwindling daily. Every time my wife sends me a Pinterest link I just ask her to screenshot it as I can't see shit on the default mobile page. I don't even know why Google continues to allow them in the results when there is clear-cut policies around showing som…
> Ironically, a good workaround is setting your user agent to the Googlebot and suddenly all those modal/nag screens disappear. This is hilarious and makes so much sense. God, the internet is broken
Yup. Googlebot can also traverse some paywalls