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The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#181
Who turned the ZUCK loose with arrows and spears ?

Yeah, sure, his security detail made 100's of video clips of him before he got one on target, they have jokes flowing between their texting each other how lame Zuck is . . . .

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#182

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> Ironically, a good workaround is setting your user agent to the Googlebot and suddenly all those modal/nag screens disappear. Hmmmm. Now that I think of it I'm fairly sure that serving different content to Googlebot compared to what you served ordinary users used to be a good way to call down the wrath of the SEO master upon your (or your clients) website. Then again, that was before. Back when Google was a nice co…

In fact it's still forbidden by Google ... Except if you are very large like Pinterest

It might not be forbidden if it works. Google is famous for undocumented workarounds.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#183
post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

Reddit's new UI is still hilariously terrible. The day they remove old.reddit.com is the day I stop using the site. Who the hell thinks what I want when I click on an article is to bring it into a related article feed with 1.5 comments showing? If I accidentally click outside of the article area the whole thing vanishes with no way to get back where I was. I had thought these issues would be obvious and they would cl…

It's gotten to the point where if I saw "Software Engineer - Reddit" on a candidate's resume, I would seriously question this person's chops, even if it's just one small signal in an otherwise great background. How did this site's quality to get so poor? Why couldn't you do anything about it? It's so bad that you have to believe it was deliberately made bad.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#184
post #48

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Pinterest and Reddit are not better these days. The amount of things you can view on reddit on your phone without creating an account or installing the app is dwindling daily. Every time my wife sends me a Pinterest link I just ask her to screenshot it as I can't see shit on the default mobile page. I don't even know why Google continues to allow them in the results when there is clear-cut policies around showing som…

Pinterest is by the far the worst because it takes content from the rest of the world and strips away all context. It's the anti-wikipedia, an information black hole.

Whenever I put a google search down, and see one page of Pinterest on there I immediately go back to the search box and go for; “-site:pinterest.*”. I absolutely hate that site with a passion.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#185
post #72

Where are the developers implementing this stuff on large social media, especially Reddit who had such a user friendly founding? Surely they're here on HN. I'd love to hear their thinking in going along with this, assuming it's something better than "fuck the users I want to get paid." How do you join the dev team for a service you like and use, and then knowingly destroy it?

The word "destroy" is questionable. These types of user-hostile patterns may in fact be needed to secure revenue or to exist at all.

The standard internet user doesn't pay for anything and increasingly blocks ads. That's why these patterns exist.

Surely it would feel uneasy to developers with a passion for UX, but there's nothing you can do about it. Go ahead and quit, it's not going to be very hard to find another developer willing to do it for 200K.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#186

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Reddit's app registers itself as a uri handler for reddit links but (thanks to google) AMP or iframe results don't prompt the actual system uri handler that would take you to the app.

Oh wow, is this what happens when multiple Fuck You Patterns collide?

I think you just encountered the clusterfuck pattern

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#187
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I'm glad you mention this, thought I was the only one. I've been experiencing this on facebook.com, for years. I'm puzzled how this is even technically possible. A website isn't supposed to be able to clear the history of where I came from?

It's Firefox doing it to prevent Facebook (and Instagram) from scraping your history. If you're not on Firefox, then I don't know.

That makes total sense, thanks!

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#189
post #13

I love instagram. It's the best social media site. Last time I checked, I couldn't even make an account from my desktop computer. I'm not gonna even try to install their app on my G-free phone. When a friends sends me a link to Instagram, I know that I don't need to click on it -- the thumbnail contains all the information that I'd ever see without creating an account. When news articles consist of a bunch of embedde…

This was a dark pattern they launched almost a year ago, as a non user of mostly every social media site, instagram is probably the worst in terms of forcing users to login to view public content.

I wouldn't normally have a problem with this but public content should be just that, viewable by the general public and not being forced to install a tracke.. err, their app on my phone.

Where I have a huge problem with this is public health or other official announcements from community leaders or essential information and its being put out on facebook. So now I can't access a public message by a publicly elected entity for general consumption. It seems extremely slimy and it feels illegal on some level as I don't want to be forced to login to facebook to view local updates.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#190
post #13

I love instagram. It's the best social media site. Last time I checked, I couldn't even make an account from my desktop computer. I'm not gonna even try to install their app on my G-free phone. When a friends sends me a link to Instagram, I know that I don't need to click on it -- the thumbnail contains all the information that I'd ever see without creating an account. When news articles consist of a bunch of embedde…

Is the way that Twitter links often fail to load on the first several tries (then finally, mysteriously, work as if nothing happened) one of these "force you to log in and use the app" dark patterns? It's been that way for years now, so I have to think it's not accidental.

It always takes exactly 3 reloads for me.
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