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The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by avalys »

This seems like an anti-scraping measure to me, they are limiting how much content you can access on the site without an account?

Seems like if they did not have protections like this, another group of people would be complaining about easy FB makes it for nefarious actors to violate your privacy, etc. and how careless they are in not locking down access better.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by avalys »

Groxx wrote: post #11

Yeah - this is why I stay out of Instagram. They're repeatedly, blatantly hostile to any non-user use. At least they're not as bad as Pinterest, which has done this for years, plus their million alternate domains polluting search results.

What exactly is a “non-user use”?

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Post by glennvtx »

axbytg wrote: post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

The web reddit is just awful. Leave a thread open for some time, and navigation even breaks.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by Cicero22 »

mulmen wrote: post #9
axbytg wrote: post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

What I don’t understand is why Reddit wants us to use the app so badly. Is it just for ads? Is it data collection?

another possibility is to increase traffic, which I guess also increases ad revenue. It's a lot easier to tap an icon on your home screen than it is to open a browser and type in reddit and whichever subreddit you want to browse. The less friction there is, the more likely you are to be a daily user, driving their revenue.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by suzzer99 »

Groxx wrote: post #11

Yeah - this is why I stay out of Instagram. They're repeatedly, blatantly hostile to any non-user use. At least they're not as bad as Pinterest, which has done this for years, plus their million alternate domains polluting search results.

Pinterest is the absolute worst at this. I died a little inside when I finally gave in and made an account (using google login). But I needed to use an image for some research I was doing.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by judge2020 »

JoeyBananas wrote: post #10
axbytg wrote: post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

Microsoft Windows is even worse. Constant disruptive updates, forcing you to make an account during install, ads in the start menu, that creepy "Cortana" process that you can't kill...

One of the few good things from Windows 11 is that Cortana has been evicted (the Bing stuff is still there though).

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by u801e »

glennvtx wrote: post #23
axbytg wrote: post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

The web reddit is just awful. Leave a thread open for some time, and navigation even breaks.

I just use old.reddit.com on my mobile and laptop.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by Y_Y »

draw_down wrote: post #2

The inability to scroll is from a body-level element that has `overflow: hidden` set. Set that to visible and you should be able to scroll

Maybe it's time for shit like hiding scrollbars to be opt-in. I bet there are great use-cases for messing with scrolling, or right-click, or the back button, or whatever else. I bet there are benevolent websites that make downright acceptable use of these things. But this is not the hot path. There is far more abuse than good-use, yet I don't know any browser that does the right thing.
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