The 'Fuck You' Pattern • Hacker News Board

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#11

Post by Groxx » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 8:06 PM UTC

Yeah - this is why I stay out of Instagram. They're repeatedly, blatantly hostile to any non-user use.

At least they're not as bad as Pinterest, which has done this for years, plus their million alternate domains polluting search results.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#12

Post by rescripting » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 8:07 PM UTC

axbytg wrote: post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

What is worse, is that even though I installed the official app to squelch this nonsense (the Fuck You Pattern is effective) the mobile site still prompts with "Open in the Reddit App".

When I click it my iPhone opens the App Store. The App Store then has a big blue "Open" button to launch the app, but of course all context is lost and opening from there brings you to your Reddit front page.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#13

Post by klyrs » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 8:07 PM UTC

I love instagram. It's the best social media site. Last time I checked, I couldn't even make an account from my desktop computer. I'm not gonna even try to install their app on my G-free phone.

When a friends sends me a link to Instagram, I know that I don't need to click on it -- the thumbnail contains all the information that I'd ever see without creating an account. When news articles consist of a bunch of embedded Instagram crap, it doesn't even load on vanilla firefox. That's cool, those stories are usually celebrity gossip that I don't actually want to read but got baited into clicking on.

It's my favorite social media site, because their hooks just bounce straight off me.

Thanks, Instagram, for the consistent signalling. I never wanted to be your friend anyway.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by notjustanymike » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 8:08 PM UTC

mulmen wrote: post #9

axbytg wrote: post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

What I don’t understand is why Reddit wants us to use the app so badly. Is it just for ads? Is it data collection?

Likely both. It sure as hell ain't to make your experience any better.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 8:08 PM UTC

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Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by ornornor » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 8:08 PM UTC

mulmen wrote: post #9

axbytg wrote: post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

What I don’t understand is why Reddit wants us to use the app so badly. Is it just for ads? Is it data collection?

I suspect it’s all that and their metrics show that mobile users are the most “engaged” so they want more mobile users to have an even higher count of engaged users. Also, it’s harder to spam notifications without a mobile app.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#17

Post by bo0tzz » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 8:08 PM UTC

rescripting wrote: post #12

axbytg wrote: post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

What is worse, is that even though I installed the official app to squelch this nonsense (the Fuck You Pattern is effective) the mobile site still prompts with "Open in the Reddit App". When I click it my iPhone opens the App Store. The App Store then has a big blue "Open" button to launch the app, but of course all context is lost and opening from there brings you to your Reddit front page.

I'll one up this - I use an alternative, unofficial app for reddit. Until recently the 'open' button on their website would take me into that specific app - as you would expect - but since last week or so it's started sending me to the Google Play store page for the official app instead.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#18

Post by inostia » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 8:10 PM UTC

I haven't used Facebook or Instagram in about 3 years. Occasionally I'll get sent a link to something on Instagram before having this exact experience. Whatever I'm missing out on, it hasn't been enough to convince me to make another account, my quality of life has significantly improved ever since I extricated myself from the social media hellscape.

Indeed, "fuck you" Facebook.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#19

Post by rusk » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 8:10 PM UTC

It’s a good one actually cause even if it’s falsely triggered e.g by users on NAT sharing the same address it’s only going to tell them “fuck you” but they can still login

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Post by lonbigtech » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 8:11 PM UTC

rescripting wrote: post #12

axbytg wrote: post #5

Reddit is full of these patterns in order to drive users from mobile web to app. Reddit mobile web really sets the bar for user-hostile UI in my opinion.

What is worse, is that even though I installed the official app to squelch this nonsense (the Fuck You Pattern is effective) the mobile site still prompts with "Open in the Reddit App". When I click it my iPhone opens the App Store. The App Store then has a big blue "Open" button to launch the app, but of course all context is lost and opening from there brings you to your Reddit front page.

What browser are you using on your phone?