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If you want meat at the scale we eat it at now, let alone the one we'll eat it at when China and India have twice their current incomes, free range isn't going to cut it.
I don't disagree. I understand arguments for less meat. What I don't understand is abolition...that's just silly and a huge environmental catastrophe.
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> sense of ickiness or masculinity If they can keep the cost lower (2/3 or better 1/2 price) than animal meat, all of the stigma will just poof out of existence. This is very exiting, but its a not solution to global warming (only small factor). >> Methane has a large effect but for a relatively brief period, having an estimated mean half-life of 9.1 years in the atmosphere, whereas carbon dioxide is currently given…
Totally agreed - competitive flavor at superior price will make those other arguments disappear. That’s why I think we should view this as a foregone conclusion and get positioned to simply own the future, or at least not have our future owned by someone else.
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-gastronomy/how-c...
As someone who actually had to eat Tiger's Milk bars as a kid, good luck at it.
This is kind of a weird question, but how exactly does anyone prove that this is actually lab grown meat and isn't just normal meat that has been turned into meat paste and then sold for twice as much as normal meat? I mean, obviously, they wouldn't do this at first. They would wait until everyone was complacent and used to eating lab grown meat before they started supplementing their production. As long as creating…
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The ironic counter-ads will be viscious: "Be a real man! Risk getting sick from one of our real burgers! Each one is made from the hormone-pumped flesh of a real baby cow that never knew its real mom!"
Meat advertisting/propaganda uses "Eat natural whole foods (ignoring all the unnaural things they do to the animals and meat), not processed fake meat foods". And to some extent, they have a point. But of course they don't invite you to eat natural whole plant foods instead of meat.
Lab grown pork from an Israeli company! Is this kosher?
I always wonder about the morality questions. This is like a lab experiment for subjective morality. For the sake of the experiment, let's assume the sci-fi writers are right, and eating animals will eventually be considered immoral. This is an extreme stance at the moment (hello PETA) but let's assume it will eventually be accepted as the only moral stance. How long will it be between the introduction of lab-grown m…
I think "meat from animals" will quickly become considered higher quality, or luxury. We can kind-of see this now with seafood, where "wild caught" is more expensive than farmed.
For the longer term I'd think it would be more like cannibalism which humanity likely widely engaged in early on but very few would even consider today.
Just gross and icky and "you'd eat an animal!!!??" (disclaimer, I eat lots of meat).
The price seems to be ~$3.90 to produce chicken breast. Given that I regularly find chicken breast in a store for $1.99, I'll assume that's still ~3x as costly as just farm raising chickens. It will be interesting if subsidies can change this though. The negative externalities of raising animals must be huge. The jobs tied up in these industries are enormous as well though.
I'm pretty sure that the poultry industry is already receiving major agricultural subsidies to get to that price.
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Especially with cows, sheep and chickens, I suspect the market for their non-meat goods (milk, wool, eggs) will persist (perhaps in a progressively more artisanal market) for far longer than the killing-animals version of the meat industry.
I don't know about wool, but outside of artisanal situations the industry for milk and eggs is cruel from birth to death, not just at death.
The price seems to be ~$3.90 to produce chicken breast. Given that I regularly find chicken breast in a store for $1.99, I'll assume that's still ~3x as costly as just farm raising chickens. It will be interesting if subsidies can change this though. The negative externalities of raising animals must be huge. The jobs tied up in these industries are enormous as well though.
I see free range chicken breasts for way more than that. If they’re targeting the consumers who buy based on ethics, they’ve already reached a not-unreasonable price.
If economies of scale exist, this is a no brainer investment opportunity. I wouldn't be concerned at all about their current price dynamics and need to earn a short term return.
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Meat advertisting/propaganda uses "Eat natural whole foods (ignoring all the unnaural things they do to the animals and meat), not processed fake meat foods". And to some extent, they have a point. But of course they don't invite you to eat natural whole plant foods instead of meat.
Here's where I'd like to insert the friendly reminder that all plants are living beings. You, as a living being must eat other living beings. Plants are intelligent and pass information to eachother via the web of mycelium and other unknown ways. Morality about eating only living plants, vs eating meats has always been flawed. As were the arguments about eating pescatarian and only eating fish because they "are not i…