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As the Pandemic Recedes, Millions of Workers Are Saying 'I Quit'

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Post by sureglymop »

carom wrote: post #307
sureglymop wrote: post #194

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As someone in their 20s without social media, I have exactly 0 friends. I live in a central European country and everyone around me has a friend group that originated during their childhood; they have childhood friends. I do not, mainly because throughout my time in school I switched schools a whole lot for various reasons. Over the years I've also grown quite insecure about it and anxious. Now I also happen to not l…

I don't smoke or drink. You can still go play billiards, work out at a gym, find a pull up bar in public, join a bicycle group ride, skateboard, join a yoga class, hang out at a maker space, go to a car meetup, go off road driving, go camping or hiking in a national park, go to concerts, start muay thai or bjj, etc. I meet a ton of people without alcohol.

You're right.. I suppose I am also a very shy person. But for starters, I joined a soccer club. And hopefully soon I'll get over my anxiety of going to the gym, I've been wanting to go for some time.

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Post by 6510 »

changingtalk wrote: post #139
haswell wrote: post #124

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Two thoughts: 1. Even though the economy may be booming, that doesn't have to mean job changes aren't also driven by re-evaluation of priorities. The two may be complementary. 2. I think we've only seen the tip of the iceberg. I work with multiple people all in the process of looking for new roles. People that I would not have expected to leave - "heart of the team" kinds of people. This is after 4-5 devs (in a depar…

> I work with multiple people all in the process of looking for new roles. I also am noticing this around me. Years ago I did the startup thing for 5 years, grinding really hard for someone else (mainly investors) to make a ton of money. Burned myself out, quit with no plans, and ended up consulting as a freelance dev from then on. Realized I'm much happier with this arrangement, with the ability to take months off a…

I really enjoy a few spoons worth of programming per day. If it was a bucket I'd be fine with it. The labor market is like a swimming pool worth of beer that you have to drink before it goes stale.

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Post by caseysoftware »

nickthemagicman wrote: post #330
caseysoftware wrote: post #303

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Here's some sourced data for my claims to look at the "myth" if you're interested: "65% of Americans are still paying for cable TV." "According to cable cord-cutting subscribers statistics for 2018, the average viewer in the US can save up to $104 per month by taking the plunge." Ref: https://techjury.net/blog/cable-tv-subscribers-statistics/ "According to Zagat, if you are like the average American, you go out for l…

"Us1035.iheart.com" I have a strange feeling that your sources are as poor as your ideas.

Feelings and myths over data. Cool story bro.

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Post by cweill »

kaycebasques wrote: post #12

I am on a 1 year sabbatical as of the start of this month. I wrote a "prologue" [1] summarizing my motivations, fears, and plans and I plan on posting an "epilogue" at the end to compare my expectations with the actual outcome. [1] https://kayce.basqu.es/sabbatical/prologue

No way! I also created a prologue to my sabbatical from Google after 6.5 years: https://youtu.be/7vSBCZ1mnL4

Great minds think alike, I suppose.

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Post by fuzzylama »

granshaw wrote: post #76
mehphp wrote: post #62

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> There’s swaths of competent people abroad that are happy to take your (overpaid) place How is it overpaid? Engineers provide a lot more value than they are getting paid. If anything, people abroad are underpaid.

I’m on a slack channel with other startup founders and just this week I was seeing chatter about how asking rates for Eastern EU devs were skyrocketing lately

Can you give me an idea on what the rates are?

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Post by dragonsngoblins »

nickpp wrote: post #130
hypertele-Xii wrote: post #116

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I'm more of a PC guy, but yeah, pretty much. For a while. But even that gets boring at some point. Human brains are weird, man.

I really wonder dude, I really wonder. The older I get the harder I find to be excited by shit. I do believe that if I was in the iPhone team I would've been like "another f-ing phone, why should I care?". The paycheck is pretty much all that is getting me out of bed in the morning, even if at this point I can't say I really need it anymore.

Part of that might be that you lack the time or energy to properly explore new things though, and that lack of time or energy probably has something to do with getting that pay check.

I mean also maybe not, but I find it hard to devote time to things I know I am interested in because I work 9-5, 5 days a week. I spend time with my partner of an evening and have housework and exercise to take care of and after all that it feels like there is very little time and like I don't have a lot of energy to learn new skills or pursue hobbies, so what I end up doing is the things I know I like but that are not draining. Ultimately I spend a lot of time reading or playing video games or goofing off on reddit.

Even taking a week or two off isn't necessarily a good indicator, because you won't say, go and buy a bunch of paints and an easel and go "right I'm finally going to get stuck into painting" when you only have two weeks off and know you won't have time for it once they are up

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Post by IOT_Apprentice »

tomkat0789 wrote: post #213
jghn wrote: post #199

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My own anecdote tracks. Never thought about the age correlation but most of my team are early 30s and younger. That group has been very negative about the remote experience. I'm much older and while I didn't like it at first, I'm in the camp of people who don't ever want to go back to an office. The people who are in between age-wise are a bit of a mix.

Possible reason from my own anecdata: I joined a new company in a new industry in the middle of the pandemic. I definitely prefer working remotely (I'm just past 30), but as a new hire I felt some disadvantages. Mainly: my co-workers who have been at the company longer than I weren't very helpful with onboarding me! We're a little company, so documentation of a bunch of our software is non-existent and the specialize…

That is a tribal knowledge problem and is a sign of a core problem a the company. As it persists as the company grows it will be a detriment to anyone coming on board. Couple that with an unwillingness to help others and that is not a company to stay at long term, it is a warning sign.

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Post by nickalaso »

srackey wrote: post #134
dougmwne wrote: post #11

5 years ago I hit a burnout point and took a year off work. It was a huge perspective shift. I realized that my day-to-day of a rushed commute to work, a stressful and distracting office, thimble-deep coworker relationships and a life completely orientated around doing the above was an insane waste of my short time on Planet Earth. I reoriented my life around family, remote work, flexibility and balance. My quality o…

And also anecdotally, every professional office worker under ~30 I know has been absolutely miserable during this remote work experience, and is yearning to get back to the office - most for a full 5 days a week.

Any comment like this is immediately hit with a flood of "well I love working from home". I'm under 30 and absolutely miserable working from home. The lack of any social interaction with my coworkers combined with a personal lack of a social network outside of work has left me lonely and isolated. On a positive note the lockdown has pushed me to begin exercising, start eating healthier, stop drinking, and start learning a second language in prep for a long sabbatical abroad.

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Post by nickalaso »

sureglymop wrote: post #194
HarryHirsch wrote: post #145

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That's baffling, haven't people got friends?

As someone in their 20s without social media, I have exactly 0 friends. I live in a central European country and everyone around me has a friend group that originated during their childhood; they have childhood friends. I do not, mainly because throughout my time in school I switched schools a whole lot for various reasons. Over the years I've also grown quite insecure about it and anxious. Now I also happen to not l…

I am in the same camp, though, drinking doesn't exactly expand the options that much, just so you know. The real problem is our generation doesn't really seem to have many places to actually meet and make friends with others our own age. It is either some club (not exactly conducive to long term friendship building) or online in some way. If you don't make lasting friendships during college, many of us 20-somethings are kind of screwed unless we bust our asses trying to join communities outside of work. I've been thinking about volunteer work for instance.
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