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World’s first lab-grown meat facility pumps out 5k burgers per day

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Re: World’s first lab-grown meat facility pumps out 5k burgers per day

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Post by Retric »

ben_w wrote: post #6
ethanbond wrote: post #2

> Future Meat Technologies says this facility requires 96-percent less freshwater than livestock production, as well as using 99-percent less land and producing 80-percent fewer greenhouse emissions. Even accounting for PR hyperbole, it is so apparent at this point that any country who chooses not to board this train will be at the mercy of those who do. This is a national security issue. We can choose to curse our y…

I’m all in favour of this for climate change and animal welfare reasons, but I don’t see how it’s a national security concern in e.g. Europe and America, given they already encourage farming overproduction specifically because food is so important, and that almost everywhere could already be more effective in how many people a given unit of land area or fresh water can support, both by encouraging vegetable-based die…

Overproduction is based on assumptions around how variable farm output is. Climate change increases variability.

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Post by airhead969 »

Let's consider that cultured meats are okay as future historically-correct delicacies. We are religiously-attached to meat agriculture now, but we must kick the habit because it's killing us and going to kill us: resource utilization, climate change, antibiotics resistance, and pandemics.

How about we design a specific protein product that is healthiest first? And then second: how to produce it as efficiently as possible?

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Post by airhead969 »

Retric wrote: post #11
ben_w wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m all in favour of this for climate change and animal welfare reasons, but I don’t see how it’s a national security concern in e.g. Europe and America, given they already encourage farming overproduction specifically because food is so important, and that almost everywhere could already be more effective in how many people a given unit of land area or fresh water can support, both by encouraging vegetable-based die…

Overproduction is based on assumptions around how variable farm output is. Climate change increases variability.

Climate change isn't the weather.

Climate is the average.

We are in a global warming emergency and no one is doing enough about it.

Re: World’s first lab-grown meat facility pumps out 5k burgers per day

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Post by ethanbond »

devy wrote: post #10
ethanbond wrote: post #2

> Future Meat Technologies says this facility requires 96-percent less freshwater than livestock production, as well as using 99-percent less land and producing 80-percent fewer greenhouse emissions. Even accounting for PR hyperbole, it is so apparent at this point that any country who chooses not to board this train will be at the mercy of those who do. This is a national security issue. We can choose to curse our y…

The greenest protein factory is the one that we don't have to build - even if it's 99% less land or 80% fewer greenhouse emissions than the traditional farming of cows, sheep and poultry. It's actually this: https://interestingengineering.com/the-explosion-of-insect-p...

We should do that too

Re: World’s first lab-grown meat facility pumps out 5k burgers per day

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Post by ethanbond »

ben_w wrote: post #6
ethanbond wrote: post #2

> Future Meat Technologies says this facility requires 96-percent less freshwater than livestock production, as well as using 99-percent less land and producing 80-percent fewer greenhouse emissions. Even accounting for PR hyperbole, it is so apparent at this point that any country who chooses not to board this train will be at the mercy of those who do. This is a national security issue. We can choose to curse our y…

I’m all in favour of this for climate change and animal welfare reasons, but I don’t see how it’s a national security concern in e.g. Europe and America, given they already encourage farming overproduction specifically because food is so important, and that almost everywhere could already be more effective in how many people a given unit of land area or fresh water can support, both by encouraging vegetable-based die…

Well one mechanism by which this becomes a natsec concern is food scarcity in other parts of the world might simultaneously cause domestic instability as well as mass migration to more food-secure locales.

We should also do all of the things you mention here.

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Post by starfallg »

aurora72 wrote: post #3

A key benefit of cultured meat is its minimized impact on the environment => And the key danger is its maximized impact on the body.

Implying that natural products are always good for us, while synthetic ones are always bad is intellectual laziness. There is an abundance of toxic compounds found in nature that are unequivocally bad for us. Take bracken for example, a ubiquitous plant containing the carcinogen ptaquiloside, which is used in cooking in different parts of the world traditionally. It can also be absorbed up the food chain affecting milk that humans consume, and it is known to affect the water supply, increasing the rate of stomach cancer.

Re: World’s first lab-grown meat facility pumps out 5k burgers per day

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Post by detritus »

I know we've got to start somewhere and I'm all for this direction, but wake me up when we're making synthetic meat products based on beef or pork cell lines.

Chicken's the one meat I don't feel too guilty about eating, especially in emission terms. Yet, anyway...

Re: World’s first lab-grown meat facility pumps out 5k burgers per day

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Post by airhead969 »

IntelMiner wrote: post #7
aurora72 wrote: post #3

A key benefit of cultured meat is its minimized impact on the environment => And the key danger is its maximized impact on the body.

What impact?

Diverticulitis, gout, hyperlipidemia, halitosis, ...
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