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Did the glycinate formulation have a markedly better effect than more common alternatives?
Not really sure, I heard that magnesium citrate can have laxative effects. I used to use cal-mag which helped anxiety but it never really “clicked” in my head that it was helping, I used it for muscle cramps.
Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status
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> Two doctors have now ate nothing but meat, animal fat and organs for two years and posted their test results I see your n=2 "study" and raise the risk of colorectal cancer; an n=900 study with plausible causative link. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27655186
Your proof that I’m wrong is some garbage epidemiology study about colon cancer?
What about that study makes you say that it's "garbage?"
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#224Scientific information about how magnesium works is hard to come by. Here's what I have been able to gather from various sources: The cells in your body need calcium to go into "on state". To go into "off state" magnesium has to go in and displace calcium.
When your body is low on magnesium your muscles can't go into "off state" and your muscles become stiff. To relax you need an Epsom salt bath (it contains magnesium) or just take magnesium supplements.
When your brain cells can't go to "off state" you can't sleep. You need magnesium to help your brain cells go into off state. However the "blood brain barrier" (look it up) prevents magnesium from easily entering the brain. Magnesium l-threonate (that's a compound of magnesium, not a brand name) can pass through this barrier and help you sleep.
I have had sleep issues for many years. I saw many doctors including sleep specialists but all they wanted to do is put me on prescription meds. But these meds are addictive and you have to take it for the rest of your life. I didn't want that. These are "quick fixes". As a software developer I was interested in finding the underlying problem and fix that, as opposed to the quick fixes that the medical community was offering me.
A breakthrough came when I saw a naturopathic doctor for my stiff muscles and she advised me to take Epsom salt baths. That seemed to help. I investigated more and found out that the ingredient in Epsom salt that helped me is magnesium. Then I found out that you can actually get magnesium pills and tried that. That worked remarkably well. But the big surprise was that I slept better the night I tried the magnesium pill. Since then I have been researching how it is that magnesium helped me sleep.
Stress depletes magnesium in your body. If you are a software developer you are stressing your brain all day when you do your job and you are depleting magnesium. Low magnesium levels causes muscle issues as well as sleep issues. Magnesium supplements solve the problem.
It is very unfortunate that medical doctors don't seem to be very knowledgeable about this topic. When I see doctors I mention that I am taking magnesium for muscle and sleep issues and they seem surprised, but no doctor has yet told me that I am wrong.
Note that magnesium is a natural mineral, not a drug, essential for your body, and found in many foods. Excess amounts of magnesium can cause a laxative effect, but this is very temporary.
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When my grandparents told me that chicken tastes less good nowadays I thought they were just old and had lost their sense of taste. Actually they were right though.
Everything tastes less good nowadays. When I was a kid, we used to eat tomatoes like apples, just biting into them, maybe with some salt. Nowadays supermarket tomatoes taste like water.
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#226From the source: "The high rate of magnesium deficiency now postulated [5,6,7,8] can be attributed in part to a steady decline in general magnesium content in cultivated fruits and vegetables, a reflection of the observed depletion of magnesium in soil over the past 100 years [11,12,13]. A report to Congress was already sounding the alarm as far back as the 1930s, pointing out the paucity of magnesium, and other mine…
Looking at those foods and daily intake, I'm wondering how many people are not hitting their daily intake.
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For anyone taking magnesium supplements that have found it helpful, did you ever get a blood test to look at your magnesium levels and did they say you were deficient based on the reference ranges?
Unfortunately, that is what lots of people do not do. Noticed it recently with Vitamin D where everyone was like: "There is much deficiency, there are no down sites, let's all take it." And I was like: "Sure, there are probably benefits, but for people with actual deficiency. There is a test for that, why don't you do that?" But at that point, it was too late because you can't test for a deficiency once you supplemen…
https://www.grassrootshealth.net/document/grassrootshealth-p...
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Everything tastes less good nowadays. When I was a kid, we used to eat tomatoes like apples, just biting into them, maybe with some salt. Nowadays supermarket tomatoes taste like water.
Anecdotally (though studies like [1] seem to confirm this), I've found that tomatoes are quite sensitive to transportation and storage. To me, garden tomatoes taste fantastic; the ones at the local farmers' market taste pretty good too; supermarket tomatoes are only good for making tomato sauce. I wonder whether the tomatoes you ate as a kid had been transported over long distances. Also anecdotally, I haven't found…
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Everything tastes less good nowadays. When I was a kid, we used to eat tomatoes like apples, just biting into them, maybe with some salt. Nowadays supermarket tomatoes taste like water.
Anecdotally (though studies like [1] seem to confirm this), I've found that tomatoes are quite sensitive to transportation and storage. To me, garden tomatoes taste fantastic; the ones at the local farmers' market taste pretty good too; supermarket tomatoes are only good for making tomato sauce. I wonder whether the tomatoes you ate as a kid had been transported over long distances. Also anecdotally, I haven't found…
Those varieties have mostly out competed everything else in farmers markets and supermarkets but if you buy seeds online from specialized stores and grow them yourself, you can unlock an entire universe of flavor. Personally, I've never found a supermarket fruit or vegetable that tastes as good as the ones I have grown or eaten in countries with less industrialized farming, with the exception of designer varieties like cotton candy grapes, cosmic crisp apples, or sumo mandarins (though their quality is rapidly falling as they go from coddled breeding labs to industrial scale). I don't think I've had a "proper" strawberry, blueberry, or raspberry since I moved to the United States.
[1] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/336/6089/1711.full