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Re: Binance banned from doing business in UK

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so what is the point of cryptocurrencies then? other than to make ponzi schemes efficient to the unsuspecting general public who don't even know what they are getting into? [0] > But is not any excuse for banning, good person can sometimes not want to make a public purchase. It is when ransomware is on the rise [1] and the cryptocurrency exchanges like binance are letting them get away with it. [0] https://www.cnbc.c…

The utility, to me, seems to be creating a global financial market that is truly trustless and permissionless, aka no gatekeepers. Right now, if I want to buy American stocks, I have to go through the handful of brokers licensed to sell foreign stocks in my country. I have to meet their funding requirements and I have to pay their hefty fees, not to mention meet their kyc requirements. This effectively makes it inacc…

I'm sort of intrigued on this 'synthetic stocks' thing. What exactly are you buying there?

In the US, we have 'ADR" (American Depository Receipt) products for foreign companies. A company holds foreign shares, then issues ADRs which can (nominally) be exchanged 1:1 for them. That allows investors to get involved without the legal complexities of actually getting the shares in their name.

They're a normal thing you buy through ordinary domestic brokerages.

Re: Binance banned from doing business in UK

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Lmao are you serious? Source is 15 years of buying drugs. The illegal drug dealers only took cash, and now that buying drugs is legal, the legal dealers only take cash too. They have an ATM in their shop, but that's because they only take cash. I guess you never buy drugs IRL, if you really want a source for "drug dealers only take cash". What's next, wanting a source for "water is wet"? > Also, did you just forget w…

> Lmao are you serious? Source is 15 years of buying drugs... So the source is you then? If so, that is an anecdote and that isn't a reputable source, try again. > The illegal drug dealers only took cash, and now that buying drugs is legal, the legal dealers only take cash too. They have an ATM in their shop, but that's because they only take cash. So you are saying that cryptocurrencies was never an option for these…

I promise you that drug dealers only accept cash.

Maybe a few zoomer ones accept Venmo, but that is functionally equivalent.

Re: Binance banned from doing business in UK

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When you pull funds how do you transfer them out? As fiat or Bitcoin or tether or?

If the UK makes it hard to trade bitcoin, you can also guess that the value of bitcoin denominated in GBP will go down dramatically. You probably don't want to be holding tether in that case.

It hasn't done that and it is unlikely that they will. There are UK based exchanges, the issue here is with binance specifically and not cryptocurrencies in general.

Re: Binance banned from doing business in UK

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I've always believed in the strength and independence of Bitcoin and cryptocoins. But maybe there's just so many evil-doers/criminals out there that the novel trust free payment network will crumble under the weight of all of the adjacent scams. I hope not, but I find myself in the truly puzzling position of rooting for the regulators sometimes. I can easily partition bitcoin's good qualities from all of the bad thin…

Unfortunately all this stuff is by design - it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone that a non-reversible currency that can be handled in a non-traceable way might be used for crime and scams.

Re: Binance banned from doing business in UK

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Doesn’t matter what you do with your cryptocurrency, the value can easily evaporate because of the actions of others, including binance and those who use it and other dodgy exchanges which make up the vast majority of crypto ‘transactions’. What happens when you want to sell it for fiat you can actually use and nobody wants to buy? So many people pouring money into this space have never seen a bear market or a bank r…

Bitcoin isn't that new thing any more, to me it looks like fiat holders have seen too many bitcoin holders gain significant value. Yes, there are also those that lose their BTC for whatever reason but to me it seems to be quite a minority compared to those who actually have made good dough just holding BTC. To the tune of having retired on their stash.

>Fiat holder

Am I supposed to believe crypto nerds aren't holding any fiat?

Re: Binance banned from doing business in UK

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I've always believed in the strength and independence of Bitcoin and cryptocoins. But maybe there's just so many evil-doers/criminals out there that the novel trust free payment network will crumble under the weight of all of the adjacent scams. I hope not, but I find myself in the truly puzzling position of rooting for the regulators sometimes. I can easily partition bitcoin's good qualities from all of the bad thin…

Any ban aimed at Binance or a centralized exchange in particular will not have much to do with Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies themselves.

Re: Binance banned from doing business in UK

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Yes absolutely. Coinbase has terrible customer service, often ignoring support requests completely until you go onto social media and try to get their attention publicly before they'll even give you a response. I don't think there is necessarily a "best" way to have your keys and crypto, but usually depending on the crypto you use they usually have an official wallet that you can use where you'd be responsible for th…

Coinbase, a nasdaq listed company, handles customer support through its subreddit. What's more, a few weeks back a customer got scammed through coinbase's subreddit when his support request was answered by another user impersonating coinbase customer support, instructing the customer to move their coins to a wallet number they gave them in order to solve the issue. The customer lost $75k and there was nothing coinbas…

I smell a fresh wave of lawsuits in the crypto space with companies like Coinbase. Honestly, they just remind me of Robinhood during the GME fiasco. They are also a Y Combinator company too.

Re: Binance banned from doing business in UK

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The utility, to me, seems to be creating a global financial market that is truly trustless and permissionless, aka no gatekeepers. Right now, if I want to buy American stocks, I have to go through the handful of brokers licensed to sell foreign stocks in my country. I have to meet their funding requirements and I have to pay their hefty fees, not to mention meet their kyc requirements. This effectively makes it inacc…

I'm sort of intrigued on this 'synthetic stocks' thing. What exactly are you buying there? In the US, we have 'ADR" (American Depository Receipt) products for foreign companies. A company holds foreign shares, then issues ADRs which can (nominally) be exchanged 1:1 for them. That allows investors to get involved without the legal complexities of actually getting the shares in their name. They're a normal thing you bu…

You’re essentially buying a token that’s pegged to the price of a stock. You don’t have the same benefits as the actual stockholder, but you do get exposure to the price appreciation.

I get it that its not the same thing, but if your intention is to profit from stockmarket speculation (like many investors), its a workaround, especially if your local market doesn’t have any brokerages that allow access to US equities to retail investors. Even in India, retail couldn’t easily buy US equities until two years ago.

Imagine the situation for someone in a poor African country. There are no local brokerages that allow them to access US markets. They are effectively forced to invest in poorly regulated, low value local companies through heavily manipulated local stock markets. For such people, being able to buy some ETH and buy a liquid, synthetic version of AAPL is a gamechanger

Re: Binance banned from doing business in UK

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If you cashed out to fiat and retired on your stash in this last bubble you’re doing great, though that is at the expense of millions of retail bag holders who bought your cryptocurrency hoping they’d get rich too. If you didn’t cash out already and are taking your coins offline etc, you’re the bag holder.

This assumes the USD stays dominant indefinitely, right?

It assumes that the fraudulent stablecoin created by Binance, and involved in the vast majority of trades, (more 70%, a few days ago) unwinds.

https://crypto-anonymous-2021.medium.com/the-bit-short-insid...

https://bitfinexed.medium.com/tether-is-setting-a-new-standa...

USDC (the second largest stablecoin), isn't appreciably better.

Re: Binance banned from doing business in UK

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The utility, to me, seems to be creating a global financial market that is truly trustless and permissionless, aka no gatekeepers. Right now, if I want to buy American stocks, I have to go through the handful of brokers licensed to sell foreign stocks in my country. I have to meet their funding requirements and I have to pay their hefty fees, not to mention meet their kyc requirements. This effectively makes it inacc…

Where can I find synthetic stocks aside from Binance?

The Ethereum dApp Synthetix has a "DeFi" version of those. It's extremely inefficient and relies on centralized Chainlink oracles but it's permissionless and the assets keep their pegs.

The Korean project Luna has I believe a similar system although it's even more of a decentralization theater.

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