I don't get it. Most users don't upgrade the Windows OS version installed on the existing hardware.
Also, TPM and storage encryption won't protect you from ransomeware if you let attacker allows storage access.
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#23Modern Tech / Cheap Prices / Stewardship. Pick two.
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#24I don't understand this logic. The vast majority of people don't care what version of Windows they're running. They'll just keep running Windows 10 without a care in the world. Just like they keep running Windows 7.
I don't think Microsoft would want to make that same mistake again. I would expect Microsoft start pushing Windows 11 automatically through Windows Update for anyone on Windows 10, or at least start pushing heavily through popups/notifications to start the update like they did with Windows 10.
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#25I don't understand this logic. The vast majority of people don't care what version of Windows they're running. They'll just keep running Windows 10 without a care in the world. Just like they keep running Windows 7.
Win10 is fine for most people, and each benefit of Win11 can seem a little "niche", but lots of people will fit into at least one of those little niches. Gamers in particular, who have gotten perfectly acceptable performance out of e.g. Ryzen 1x00 CPUs, will need to upgrade to get the most out of their fast SSDs or other features like Auto HDR.
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#26I wonder how many will be convinced to install Linux, especially given the increasing move for Operating Systems as a browser shim.
If Windows 10 didn't convince you, nothing will.
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#27I hope the public backlash against Microsoft is large enough that they revert there ridiculous system requirements. Requiring TPM 1.2 is sort of reasonable I guess. But TPM 2.0. You've got to be kidding me.
Also enabling secure boot is a pain in the ass for users that dual boot, because in Linux, to load a custom compiled kernel module you have to sign it first and do a whole lot of mumbling around to get it working. Just try to install Virtualbox with secure boot enabled. I get the security concern, but why not let users install whatever they want on whatever hardware they want? Come on Microsoft, it's not like you don't already have a working kernel with arguably the best support in terms of drivers in the whole personal computing market.
Also their "supported CPUs" list is a fucking joke. Why would they cut off first gen AMD Ryzen, for example when all Zen CPUs have full TPM 2.0 support built into the AMD PSP. The Ryzen 2000 chips they list as a minimum are basically the same in terms of features and very similar in performance to the previous gen. Zen+ is a slight improvement over Zen that didn't introduce any groundbreaking features to warrant such a cutoff point. Or are you gonna tell me that an Athlon 3000G will run Windows 11 better than a first gen Threadripper?
Get your head out of your ass Microsoft, otherwise you'll be stuck with another Windows Vista.
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#28I don't understand this logic. The vast majority of people don't care what version of Windows they're running. They'll just keep running Windows 10 without a care in the world. Just like they keep running Windows 7.
Security fixes and support.
You still get 4 years with 10.
The Intel 8th gneration was introduced in 2017. So people who bought a computer in 2016 can still push it to ~9 years of service life, which is pretty good for an average Windows computer if they manage to do it. I imagine your average Windows consumer will have replaced a computer once already in that span once all the installed crap has stalled the computer to inoperable speeds.
This honestly doesn't really strike me as a major issue. Especially since smartphones have like less than three years of security fixes on average.
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#29I don't understand this logic. The vast majority of people don't care what version of Windows they're running. They'll just keep running Windows 10 without a care in the world. Just like they keep running Windows 7.
I don't think Microsoft would want to make that same mistake again. I would expect Microsoft start pushing Windows 11 automatically through Windows Update for anyone on Windows 10, or at least start pushing heavily through popups/notifications to start the update like they did with Windows 10.
We're talking about computers that (officially) cannot run Windows 11. Obviously they won't be auto-upgraded.
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#30I don't understand this logic. The vast majority of people don't care what version of Windows they're running. They'll just keep running Windows 10 without a care in the world. Just like they keep running Windows 7.
I don't think Microsoft would want to make that same mistake again. I would expect Microsoft start pushing Windows 11 automatically through Windows Update for anyone on Windows 10, or at least start pushing heavily through popups/notifications to start the update like they did with Windows 10.
That wouldn’t work if the person’s computer doesn’t support Windows 11, though, which is the entire argument the blog post is making. That because windows 11 won’t work people will just throw away their computers and create more electronic waste.