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Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status
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Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status
#42And less tasty. One of my in-laws started an organic garden solely to supply a local hotel down the country and she gave us a big box of vegetables when we were leaving after a visit.
It was very revealing. Everything she gave us had distinct and powerful tastes that were blatantly lacking from their supermarket equivalents (including the ones that say Organic on the label). The garlic blew my mind: I used the usual number of cloves in a recipe and ... well ... we were reeking.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
It isn’t survivor bias when the giant red rashes all over your body go away after nothing else has worked your entire life and your doctor says that for that to happen is impossible. It’s overlooked science. But there could still be survivor bias in there to some degree. We need proper interventional studies.
My wife has psoriasis, she has recently (ish) switched to a plant based diet, her psoriasis has cleared up too. She isn't making claims that her change in diet fixed it.
Maybe it's a change in the diet that helped? Not a change to a specific, but rather a change in general.
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#44If you put a whole cow into a meat grinder, the resulting paste contains every single micro and macro nutrient required by the human body, in their most bioavailable forms, many of which are completely absent in vegetarian and vegan diets. For millions of years, humans ate ruminant animals who’s herds they followed around, and almost nothing else. People who eat nothing but ruminant meat and organs become slim even i…
> For millions of years, humans ate ruminant animals who’s herds they followed around, and almost nothing else. This is just wrong. Nearly all archeological evidence suggests humans were hunter-gatherers. They hunted (meat) and they gathered (fruit, vegetables, nuts, etc). Hunter gathering represents about 90% of human history prior to the invention of agriculture. > And couples who do it get pregnant immediately aft…
It’s not wrong at all. The amount of edible carbohydrates we ate then was basically nothing compared to the astounding amount of carbohydrates we eat now. We eat almost nothing else. Our bodies aren’t meant to be flooded with carbohydrates all the time, and chronic disease and diabetes is the result. Our ancestors didn’t have diabetes and it’s becoming clear that exercise doesn’t fill the gap.
There is no diet plan. They don’t sell you anything that you need in order to do the diet. And it’s just video testimony, long interviews from all kinds of people who experience things like sudden pregnancy. I have looked through all of this and practically everything else out there about this and it’s not a scam. I have never believed in or practiced a diet before in my life. I have never fallen for a scam in my entire life. It’s real.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suspect it can be solved in many different ways, but when you sell food by the pound, it's much more advantageous to distribute your limited quantity of nutrients in as much produce as possible. This seems really, really hard to regulate.
Frankly, it seems to me like it's rather relatively simple thing to regulate. We already mandate things like adding vitamins to milk or flour. Extending this to vegetables really doesn't seem like big problem: farmers would just have to buy magnesium-enriched fertilizer.
Why pour it in your diet when you can put it in a pill to eat directly along with 30 other vitamins?
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#46From the source: "The high rate of magnesium deficiency now postulated [5,6,7,8] can be attributed in part to a steady decline in general magnesium content in cultivated fruits and vegetables, a reflection of the observed depletion of magnesium in soil over the past 100 years [11,12,13]. A report to Congress was already sounding the alarm as far back as the 1930s, pointing out the paucity of magnesium, and other mine…
Interesting. I recently started using Magnesium Glycinate as a supplement and I feel it truly changed my life, not exaggerating. I’ve suffered from chronic general anxiety for most of my teens and adult life. Magnesium has completely cleared this up, things I thought were just part of my personality (being anxious and other associated things) were actually due to a chronic magnesium deficiency. I just have to make su…
How much and which brand do you take?
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
It isn’t survivor bias when the giant red rashes all over your body go away after nothing else has worked your entire life and your doctor says that for that to happen is impossible. It’s overlooked science. But there could still be survivor bias in there to some degree. We need proper interventional studies.
My wife has psoriasis, she has recently (ish) switched to a plant based diet, her psoriasis has cleared up too. She isn't making claims that her change in diet fixed it.
If she is plant based now, she could have only been SAD before? This is the reason why vegans and vegetarians think their diets are good, because literally anything besides the SAD is an improvement. She is a reduction in symptoms because of a reduction of sugar and other things. Put her on carnivore for a month and if she doesn’t experience anything I’ve described then I’ll eat my hat.
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#48I know geeks love Norman Borlaug, but there was a catch: the new high-yield varieties are dependent on fertilizers made from fossil fuels. These plants grow fast and have more carbs and less of everything else. There needs to be a second Green Revolution, this time sustainable.
It's not a necessity that nitrogen fertilizer comes from fossil fuels.
Some of the first massive deployments of hydrogen electrolyzers are fir making ammonia fertilizer, replacing natural gas with solar-driven processes.
Also, I don't think that Borlaug is super closely associated with the fertilizer, as much as with breeeding hardier strains or shorter stalks, to prevent loss of wheat crops or rice crops, for example. For that matter, manure could ne used as fertilizer for the Green Revolution, there's no dependency on the Haber process, that was an entirely different revolution both in time and geography.
Re: Challenges in the diagnosis of magnesium status
#49From the source: "The high rate of magnesium deficiency now postulated [5,6,7,8] can be attributed in part to a steady decline in general magnesium content in cultivated fruits and vegetables, a reflection of the observed depletion of magnesium in soil over the past 100 years [11,12,13]. A report to Congress was already sounding the alarm as far back as the 1930s, pointing out the paucity of magnesium, and other mine…
It’s not just vegetables either - chickens are a lot less nutritious than they used to be.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2005/may/15/foodand...
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't comment on parent due to flag, I'm studying this for my wife and the relationship to autoimmune issues. It's not just ruminant, but ruminant meat eating appropriate food. Grass fed beef versus grain fed is fascinating. Furthermore, how we raise ruminants is important for the ecosystem. When I tried carnivore diet, I can attest that the benefits are real but so is the hungering addiction from processed foods.…
I don’t see a flag… people flag my comments because they are offended by eating meat. It’s fucking unbelievable. Especially if I’m right and it’s an important medical advancement. Yes, grass fed is necessary because of the omega 3 to 6 ratio. This is even more important if you are targeting autoimmune. And don’t sleep on the organs, I have found that those are important to immune-tangential things as well. Another no…
The advice you are giving is interesting but irresponsible considering how different peoples' digestive systems are. I would downvote your original comment for that and for being off topic, but I view the downvote as a way of organizing comments. Again, this is interesting, but you are pitching a foot-gun to people.