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> To Washington, Brussels' insistence on protecting GIs smacks 0f arrogance and greed. The hubris is strong in this one. Too bad, Brussel does not have any natural oil reserves.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...
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What if you make Cola that tastes exactly like Coca Cola, with the same ingredients? Geographical origins serve the same purpose as registered trademark, the only significant difference is that they don't belong to a single corporation.
What if Atlanta, GA, USA decrees that “Cola” has to be made in Atlanta, and that cheap stuff at Walmart has to be “RC Cola-style”?
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Turkish or Bulgarian feta are neither second-rate nor imitations. "Feta" is just the Greek name for a range of cheeses produced across much of the Eastern Mediterranean. But Greek cheese-producers lobbied the Greek government, and then Greece lobbied the EU, so in Europe, only cheese produced in a few regions of Greece may be called "feta." That's not because those regions produce the best feta cheese, or even becaus…
> Turkish or Bulgarian feta are neither second-rate nor imitations. They also have local names, which would be fine to use. People are not completely stupid. I mean, halloumi was unheard of here [some continental EU country] a couple of years ago, and now it’s quite popular. So people can learn new names. We can understand that cava and prosecco are similar (to a first order approximation, please don’t bite). Same fo…
> So people can learn new names
Of course, but the point of turning "feta" into a geographical indication was to gain a monopoly on a name that people around the world associate with a certain type of cheese. Other producers of that type of cheese who do not reside in Greece are concretely harmed by this. It's particularly unfair to other producers in the Balkans and Turkey, who have every bit as much cultural heritage of producing this type of cheese as Greeks do.
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champagne is a region in france ie a location, no need to call it 'french' champagne. so they're able to say champagne can only be made in the region of champagne You're free to say sparkling wine - which is what champagne is
These terms long ago became generalized. There are already trademarked brands, what does this extra layer of protectionism add. I don't think we should allow anyone to call a hamburger, they can call them ground beef patties on a bun - which is what they are. Same with sandwiches outside of sandwich. Probably the same with indian pale ales, etc.... The geographic term describes a style.
It allows people to know the origin of a product, which is the intended purpose.
Your other examples have nothing to do with geographical origin, hamburger, sandwich or IPA have never been from Hamburg, Sandwich or India, so they are irrelevant.
IMO, calling Cognac a product that does not come from Cognac is straight up fraud, and some kind of notoriety theft.
If you produce something similar to Cognac in Innsmouth, why don't you just call it Innsmouth then?
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champagne is a region in france ie a location, no need to call it 'french' champagne. so they're able to say champagne can only be made in the region of champagne You're free to say sparkling wine - which is what champagne is
These terms long ago became generalized. There are already trademarked brands, what does this extra layer of protectionism add. I don't think we should allow anyone to call a hamburger, they can call them ground beef patties on a bun - which is what they are. Same with sandwiches outside of sandwich. Probably the same with indian pale ales, etc.... The geographic term describes a style.
GI describes what words are protected as a region/ location description vs what words are generalized/ part of the dictionary
it is a style of something yes, but a style thats linked to a town/ region/ county, that the product has always been created in
IPAs are deffo not a location specific decription, since it's a style or make of beer with no location. the indian part in IPA was the destination of the beer. It could be created anywhere
so, the chinese-abibas-style is still alive and kicking even within the eu with all its "disputed systems of geographical indications"
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloumi
[1] https://www.krasnystaw.eu/produkty/ser-haluni/serek-haluni
In this regard the US is so far off the mark (and so chemically manufactured) as to cheapen the expensive and flavorful foods Europe continues to produce. When I was in Barcelona, the quality of the sausages and charcuterie was so far and above anything produced in America. It would be a real shame if they shared the same name.
One place where this becomes very difficult in particular is when ordering the Gouda cheese—where Gouda from Gouda is great and the rest is NOT.
Go EU! Go taste!
Branding, intellectual property, are important but…the most important thing to protect is taste. In this regard the US is so far off the mark (and so chemically manufactured) as to cheapen the expensive and flavorful foods Europe continues to produce. When I was in Barcelona, the quality of the sausages and charcuterie was so far and above anything produced in America. It would be a real shame if they shared the same…
Food in the US is just such a pile of shit and ability to distiquish quality from garbage in americans is so non-existent that it doesn't surprise me that there is someone here in the US that really believes you can make Parmiggiano or Feta outside the area they got invented. They just don't get it and I feel sorry for them. I lived decades in Europe and US. If you are a dairy and have milk, make your own cheese, may…