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Tiddlywiki with Roam Research like functionality

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Re: Tiddlywiki with Roam Research like functionality

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Post by diimdeep »

fsiefken wrote: post #17
diimdeep wrote: post #15

tiddlywiki to me is scary concept compared to plaintext, it always frightens me that data becomes corrupted or not recoverable from from that html/js blob. But it is also very cool concept, it could be much powerful than it is, think smalltalk like VM inside HTML file.

you can use the node based tiddlywiki and it saves the tiddlers in seperate text files. with the markdown plugin it saves to markdown. With obsidian you can use the markdown as well, or with kiln you can export to gemini or the small web

will it work like external storage, or like backup/export on save ?

Re: Tiddlywiki with Roam Research like functionality

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Post by lf-non »

grlass wrote: post #20
lf-non wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people find this graph view useful ? I have never seen the practical usefulness of this. I usually just click through the links or use search to navigate to what I need.

I've been using org-roam for my research for a couple of months now, which has a lot of overlap. The org-roam-server visualisation are really useful for me, since it makes it easier to see what areas have sparsity in them and should be expanded upon. Plus it gives me something more tangible to look at to understand how my research is expanding, there's a bigger sense of "building something". https://github.com/org-ro…

Ok, I guess the difference here is that my note-taking is write-heavy and I go read/lookup something only when I have a real use case for it - which is different from traditional research, which is the primary focus of these tools.

Re: Tiddlywiki with Roam Research like functionality

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Post by m-s-sripati »

grlass wrote: post #20
lf-non wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people find this graph view useful ? I have never seen the practical usefulness of this. I usually just click through the links or use search to navigate to what I need.

I've been using org-roam for my research for a couple of months now, which has a lot of overlap. The org-roam-server visualisation are really useful for me, since it makes it easier to see what areas have sparsity in them and should be expanded upon. Plus it gives me something more tangible to look at to understand how my research is expanding, there's a bigger sense of "building something". https://github.com/org-ro…

Have you tried obsidian? It seems to address some points that you are looking for (graph, linked notes, etc).

Re: Tiddlywiki with Roam Research like functionality

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Post by karencarits »

diimdeep wrote: post #15

tiddlywiki to me is scary concept compared to plaintext, it always frightens me that data becomes corrupted or not recoverable from from that html/js blob. But it is also very cool concept, it could be much powerful than it is, think smalltalk like VM inside HTML file.

Well, in a sense it is plaintext as your data are kept in simple divs within the html file - just open it in notepad and all your data is there!

Re: Tiddlywiki with Roam Research like functionality

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Post by diego_moita »

fouc wrote: post #19
meow112012 wrote: post #2

I couldn't go back (with Back button) once I visited the page https://rr-tw5.github.io/#DAILY%20NOTES . Honestly I really hate this style that many sites are using :(

Hmm, seems to work for me here. And that's after I clicked around a bit too. Then multiple back button clicks returns me back to here. (Safari)

Same for me. Firefox on Windows.

Re: Tiddlywiki with Roam Research like functionality

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Post by fastball »

kzrdude wrote: post #9

I'm still looking for a good note taking solution for work. I prefer something with a degree of spatial orientation, i.e persistent physical location/hierarchy. With the right organization it seems like tiddlywiki can do that.

I don't know what you do for work, but I am working on a note-taking solution[1] that is built around a note-card format and a (somewhat unique) multi-parent hierarchy system, while also allowing bi-directional links as in Tiddly or Roam, which can provide for a lot of flexibility.

Full disclosure though: the way collaboration works is optimized to allow for very granular sharing of cards, which is great when you want to share here and there with a wide variety of people (some cards you want to share with friends, some with family, some with your co-workers, some with your clients, etc). But if your goal is to collaborate with co-workers on a shared knowledge base, there are other tools that are probably better suited which we point people towards if that is their use case, like Notion/Craft/etc. Our focus is individual use first and then trying to seamlessly blend collab into that experience.

With that said, we do have a few teams using the platform so YMMV.

[1] https://supernotes.app

Re: Tiddlywiki with Roam Research like functionality

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Post by brudgers »

meow112012 wrote: post #2

I couldn't go back (with Back button) once I visited the page https://rr-tw5.github.io/#DAILY%20NOTES . Honestly I really hate this style that many sites are using :(

I turn off javascript using noScript when this happens.

My default for noScript is to trust sites because browsing the web with javaScript off is both painful and not a privacy improvement.

Moving sites to untrusted blocks annoying pop-ups. And every time I provision a new computer, Wikipedia reminds me to install noScript.

Re: Tiddlywiki with Roam Research like functionality

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Post by subpixel »

kzrdude wrote: post #9

I'm still looking for a good note taking solution for work. I prefer something with a degree of spatial orientation, i.e persistent physical location/hierarchy. With the right organization it seems like tiddlywiki can do that.

I’m using Agenda (Mac app) and still learning how to make the best use of it but I really like that it’s built around projects, daily agendas and notes tied to meetings.

The UX is imperfect but the structure is proving useful to me. It’s habit now that if anything needs to be recorded from a meeting, it’s in Agenda, and tied to the meeting, so I lose less context.

A challenge related to remote work, for me, is that if I’m not careful a day’s meetings can blend into each other. I’ve definitely had meetings “escape” me - I was on the call but a week later I can’t recall much and my notes on a paper aren’t as useful as they should be.

Re: Tiddlywiki with Roam Research like functionality

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Post by adamfeldman »

meow112012 wrote: post #2

I couldn't go back (with Back button) once I visited the page https://rr-tw5.github.io/#DAILY%20NOTES . Honestly I really hate this style that many sites are using :(

TiddlyWiki runs entirely in the local browser, without any server-side logic – sharing it with the world is an atypical use-case to me, aside from plugin demos. https://classic.tiddlywiki.com
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