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> — the ability for many untrusted participants in a network to establish consistency and trust. This is something the Internet has never had, but now it does, and I think it will take 30 years to work through all of the things we can do as a result. Wow, when you put it like that, it's amazing that I can shop, bank, and safely talk with my friends and family online. Pretty much all my messages are encrypted and/or c…

you don't have to trust the vendor, the bank, or the social media company.

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#42
The world and society at large has seen an erosion of trust.

For the naysayers, ask yourself:

- do you trust your government more or less than your parents

- do you trust the mainstream media more or less than your parents

- do you trust big companies to do the right thing more or less than your parents

As we culturally become less trusting, we need different tools to organize and determine value. Protocols that enable decentralized, distributed consensus helps build those tools. Adoption of these protocols, independent of cryptocurrency mania, is bound to happen.

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For everybody saying cryptocurrency has no use, you must not remember how much trouble society had envisioning the uses for the very internet upon which we are now posting. Here's an example of a use case recently gaining ground. https://mobile.twitter.com/BrantlyMillegan/status/1402388133... I don't have a crystal ball, but it seems foolish and short-sighted to imagine we are certain that there are no legitimate use…

The internet took like a year to take off since it became commercially available. It took the world by storm once people could connect to it, and viable and useful ideas and applications (browsers, search engines, eCommerce, filesharing, etc) proliferated at breakneck speed.

It might feel like this but it is anything but true. Prodigy was available in the early 90s and the age of 286 computers. AOL and compuserve were available very early too and for years their uses were email, online encyclopedias, looking up jpegs and eventually chat rooms. Lots of people saw no need for it in the dialup days. It took a decade for the first cable connections to become available.

Right now cryptocurrencies have taken off to an extent. Everyone knows about them but the eco system is a giant mess.

Re: Andreessen on Crypto

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post #31

I think it's pretty ignorant from both Thiel and Andreessen to put cryptocurrency and AI on the political spectrum. And generally I doubt the usefulness in classifying things into right and left. At the polar ends of each are people that have conflicting norms on how the world should work. These usually arise once again through ignorance as a norm carries the expectation to be accepted by everyone. To someone that ha…

I agree it would be nice, I think right/left is not so much a set of ideologies as an advertising campaign that has taken on a life of its own.

That said, I think one feature of that campaign is that every party will have to have a position on things affecting the population, crypto eventually being one of those.

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#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are only synonyms to coinheads.

I don't own any crypto and barely keep up with the happenings in the ecosystem. Cryptocurrency is just more commonly talked about than cryptography.

Well... for a site like HN where people do regularly talk about actual cryptography, I'd argue it's the wrong term.

Calling cryptocurrencies crypto is like calling an MLM gig a job.

Re: Andreessen on Crypto

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post #40

From the article, the use case discussed is distributed consensus. With cryptocurrencies we as society have the option of a new way of organizing labor and capital to achieve a goal. Instead of kings, politicians, corporate owners or middlemen - we have the opportunity to build systems based on the idea of rules without rulers. Bitcoin eliminates the need for central bankers to control the money supply. Ethereum repl…

How does real-life information enter a smart contract, and how do you make sure all sides make good on their dues?

Re: Andreessen on Crypto

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post #40

From the article, the use case discussed is distributed consensus. With cryptocurrencies we as society have the option of a new way of organizing labor and capital to achieve a goal. Instead of kings, politicians, corporate owners or middlemen - we have the opportunity to build systems based on the idea of rules without rulers. Bitcoin eliminates the need for central bankers to control the money supply. Ethereum repl…

The questions that you fail to address is what problem this "distributed consensus" is solving and what advantages and disadvantages has compared to existing solutions.

Re: Andreessen on Crypto

#49

> — the ability for many untrusted participants in a network to establish consistency and trust. This is something the Internet has never had, but now it does, and I think it will take 30 years to work through all of the things we can do as a result. Wow, when you put it like that, it's amazing that I can shop, bank, and safely talk with my friends and family online. Pretty much all my messages are encrypted and/or c…

you don't have to trust the vendor, the bank, or the social media company.

You still have to trust your hardware, software and surrounding tech (phone, computer, etc), produced by central authorities (lawful companies implementing government laws).

Re: Andreessen on Crypto

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you don't have to trust the vendor, the bank, or the social media company.

You still have to trust your hardware, software and surrounding tech (phone, computer, etc), produced by central authorities (lawful companies implementing government laws).

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