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Introducing Windows 11

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Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by dafzor »

CountDrewku wrote: post #211
distrill wrote: post #166

Everyone jokes about it finally being "the year of the linux desktop", but a few years ago that actually did happen to my circle. Between a mac for work and linux at home, I actually haven't touched windows in a number of years at this point, and interestingly, neither have a reasonable number of the technical people I interact with. Of the nontechnical people around me, many of them have transitioned to primarily us…

I'm guessing the "technical" people are software engineers or designers. Windows is still very much in use at large enterprises which means you have a lot of technical people supporting businesses that use it and I don't see that changing soon. Show me a good alternative to AD, group policy etc. that allows the granular control on the back end like Windows does. I wouldn't look forward to training anyone to use Linux…

The sad part is that even when the vendor certifies their product for linux it's still not a sure thing.

Have a Lenovo Thinkpad P1 gen2 + Thinkdock thunderbolt 3 dock for Workstations at work that's certified for ubuntu. Windows gives the ocasional issue with dock connected monitors blinking, but on linux one monitor wont work at all and dock USB seams to not work properly half the time.

Thunderbolt 3 are just unreliable, but still work better in windows then linux. Not that I blame linux for it but I need to get work done so I'm still sticking with windows+wsl2.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by LeonenTheDK »

ehsankia wrote: post #303
dunnevens wrote: post #36

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Good news is you can still anchor the taskbar to the left. At least you can within the leaked ISO. Bad news is that the smallest taskbar size is bigger than the current smallest size.

Is that true? From the official microsoft site [0], I see: > Taskbar functionality is changed including: Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed. [0] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica... EDIT: Sorry I misread, you meant the icons. But yeah unfortunately it sounds like you can't move the taskbar as a whole anymore. I always kept mine at the top.

Well that does suck for me though, I've been using it on the left side of the screen for well over a decade now. Guess I'll have to get with the times (as arbitrary as they are).

Although considering I've seen no one else mention this issue, I'm guessing I'm a huge outlier.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by srg0 »

w-m wrote: post #109

In the video, they're spending the first 20 seconds filing down the corners of the logo, having a big reveal of the blue Windows logo with rounded corners. This leads into the rest of the feature reveal, all round things now. But in the "end credits", the same blue Windows logo is back to its sharp cornered self again. Is this a subtle hint to the UI inconsistencies that are still to be expected after the major versi…

Windows 11 logo uses rounded corners.

The official Microsoft logo is still flat square.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by taviso »

aarongolliver wrote: post #326
bugfix wrote: post #277

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Just enabled PTT in the BIOS, but the tool still says my computer is not compatible (but it doesn't tell me exactly why).

You probably only have the header on your motherboard, without a tpm module actually plugged in. Mine was like this, and the specs for your motherboard suggest this is also the case for you. You can buy them on online pretty cheap (I got one for $20)

PTT is part of the CPU, no external TPM module is necessary. PTT is Intel's implementation, AMD have something similar called fTPM.

You do not need any external module on machines with fTPM/PTT support (i.e. if you bought it in the last few years).

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by jhowison »

bellyfullofbac wrote: post #162
dekhn wrote: post #57

The only real question is, will I still be able to get to the Network card configuration page that's been the same for the last 15-20 years? I use it daily. They've just put it behind more and more "nicce looking, but non-functional" network management UIs,.

Oh yeah.. I fucking hate Windows 10, a few weeks ago I had to check these settings and I got lost every time.. I think they've completed the web-pagization of the control panel nowadays.

Win + R, control netconnections

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by birksherty »

Too wrote: post #376
wayneftw wrote: post #175

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It doesn't matter what size the screen is when I want to reach the corners. I just slam my mouse to the lower left and I know exactly where it will be.

Not that i disagree, but who actually clicks on the start menu using the mouse? Just use the Windows button on the keyboard where your left hand is likely resting already. Fun fact btw, in win 95 the border of the start button was not clickable, so slamming into the corner did not work because of that 2px border. Microsoft was proud of presenting this feature in later versions, don't remember if it was in 98, 2000 or…

> but who actually clicks on the start menu using the mouse?

Everybody except hn readers who live in their own bubble.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by aarongolliver »

taviso wrote: post #384
aarongolliver wrote: post #326

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You probably only have the header on your motherboard, without a tpm module actually plugged in. Mine was like this, and the specs for your motherboard suggest this is also the case for you. You can buy them on online pretty cheap (I got one for $20)

PTT is part of the CPU, no external TPM module is necessary. PTT is Intel's implementation, AMD have something similar called fTPM. You do not need any external module on machines with fTPM/PTT support (i.e. if you bought it in the last few years).

You're right! And now I qualify for the win 11 beta. Looks like I got confused between two different security setting pages in the UEFI menu, and had just enabled "the ability for it to use a TPM plugged in to the header" instead of enabling PPT like I thought I was doing.

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by dannyw »

Joeri wrote: post #328
cromka wrote: post #263

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Well that, but also things like "Find my", which are a genuinely valuable and cannot function without some sort of account you can access online.

You could pair devices to each other instead of to an account. There is no reason an account needs to sit at the core of the find my experience.

actually there is plenty of reason. like you lose your backpack with your macbook and iphone in it .

Re: Introducing Windows 11

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Post by Toutouxc »

hajile wrote: post #379
meibo wrote: post #306

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Because there is no viable alternative. Macs are way too expensive for normal people that want to book a trip and read emails once in a while, and Desktop Linux sucks for everyone that's not technical or doesn't have ready access to someone technical.

The M1 macbook air at $999 blows away windows laptops that cost twice as much. It’s available for $899 almost any day of the week on Amazon (or with a school discount). The average laptop selling price is somewhere in the $700 range. That’s hardly a huge premium considering the delta in performance and user experience compared to low specced machines. I’d also say without hesitation that cheap Chromebooks are better…

The $999 M1 MacBook Air costs around $1400 in Europe (the Czech Republic, Germany, France and Poland), and most people I know get by on old $600 laptops. In my country even the base Air is very much a premium laptop and is not even expensive, but prohibitively expensive for most people.
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