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YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by aliyfarah »

>Following inquiries from Reuters as to why the channel was removed, YouTube restored it on June 18, explaining that it had received multiple so-called 'strikes' for videos which contained people holding up ID cards to prove they were related to the missing, violating a YouTube policy which prohibits personally identifiable information from appearing in its content

>YouTube asked Atajurt to blur the IDs. But Atajurt is hesitant to comply, the channel's administrator said, concerned that doing so would jeopardize the trustworthiness of the videos.

I'm not sure what the issue here is. I don't think Youtube's policy of not allowing PII content is unreasonable.

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by dang »

html5web wrote: post #98

I had to edit my comment

We ban accounts for taking HN threads into flamewar like this. Please either make your substantive points thoughtfully or don't post here.

(No, I'm not defending Google. I'm defending HN. Please do better from now on.)

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by jeswin »

I doubt this was YouTube policy, or that it was driven from the top. If it was, we'd have seen a few leaks. This is more likely mass reporting of such content (perhaps organized by State apparatus), exploiting the automated flagging algorithm.

In any case, I hope Google takes a stand now.

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by tablespoon »

brundolf wrote: post #117
saurik wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But aren't all of Google's services indiscriminately blocked in China?

Google has offices in China, I'd bet they manufacture one thing or another there, etc. Business relations go beyond just consumer-facing services

> Google has offices in China, I'd bet they manufacture one thing or another there, etc. Business relations go beyond just consumer-facing services

That might be a self-serving excuse that would apply to Apple, which the PRC has by the balls, but not Google. Whatever Google has in China is relatively minor to its business.

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by busymom0 »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #90
perihelions wrote: post #21

Remarkable that they're migrating to a decentralized video host: > "Fearing further blocking by YouTube, they decided to back up content to Odysee, a website built on a blockchain protocol called LBRY, designed to give creators more control. About 975 videos have been moved so far." I think this is them? I can't readily verify this (and also everything's written in Kazakh). https://odysee.com/@ATAJURT [late edit] Rel…

On one hand, I hate Google for the obvious bullshit they pull and not only get a pass on but are celebrated for typically. On the other hand, they’re accelerating what we all know should happen. Decentralization, restoration of privacy, data freedom, and maybe subscription based moderation and filtering (although to be fair, I’m not sure how that last one doesn’t make a worse echo chamber than we have now over enough…

> worse echo chamber

Fair criticism however as someone who uses several alternatives to YouTube regularly (Odysee, Rumble, Bitchute etc), I think Odysee has so far been the best in terms of variety of content. Odysee has decent growing number of non-political content which is exactly what's needed to fight YouTube's video monopoly. Also their UI is much better than Rumble and Bitchute.

The way to prevent them from becoming echo chambers is by contributing ourselves - upload non political content for variety of topics - cooking, pets etc.

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by georgeburdell »

Reddit is doing the same thing. I tried to post this (apparent) forced marriage video, between a Uyghur woman and Han man, to a number of subreddits and it's been auto-removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFy5K2NFNlE

I'm happy to entertain alternative explanations

*I should point out the obvious that this video has remained on Youtube

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by 8note »

nexus2045 wrote: post #35
systemvoltage wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hunch that a lot of division in the US atleast has some role or interference from Russia/China. No proof, but to me it makes sense and it is so easy to do, we've seen it happen in the past (Cambridge Analytica), and if I were an adversary of the United States, I would be trivial to sow discord amongst the populace. We're currently witnessing some fractures in the US military leadership as well. I don't mean…

All it took to "debunk" the lab leak hypothesis is to call it racism. So easy. I'm sure someone from China must have realized by now how convenient of a "get out of jail free card" this is.

Really it's a classic boy who called wolf situation.

If you blame everything on china, people won't want to believe you when there are legitimate things

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by gre »

There's a statistic that polled Americans with 83% "approving of action against China" [1] if covid was made in a Chinese lab. This story was floated early during covid and rejected, but because the US is trying to manufacture consent for action against China it's gotten a second wind. Also the Adrian Zenz "genocide" is part of the same attempt. Don't fall for it.

[1] https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/556740-pol...

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