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YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by hnick »

justicezyx wrote: post #60
mannerheim wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China isn't even a market for them since YouTube is blocked. That's what makes this even more pathetic.

There are plenty of Chinese brand advertising on YT. And there is a large population consuming YT videos through VPN, and oversea Chinese people myself for example (you can pretty much find every Chinese content creator with decent followers, probably >100k, mirror their video between Chinese ddomestic sites and YT.

I've heard China encourages/allows/supports some creators on YouTube for cultural export too.

I mean if YouTube is 'banned' then someone like Dianxi Xiaoge with 7.5 million subscribers isn't exactly under the radar if they wanted to enforce their rules.

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

Causality1 wrote: post #84
MangoCoffee wrote: post #71

>The group, credited by international organizations like Human Rights Watch for drawing attention to human rights violations in Xinjiang, has come under fire from Kazakh authorities since its founding in 2017. it seem like a legit group. do Youtube even talk to the group about their video so they have a chance to redo/review the videos? what's the rule here?

YouTube doesn't care. If society decided to start hating left-handed people YouTube wouldn't hesitate to remove left-handed content. If rape porn was legal and advertiser-friendly YouTube would put it on the front page. It's a perfect sociopath.

Strange coincidence but I was joking to myself today about how the next woke identity would be left handed people… then I remember Simpsons did it already.

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by slipframe »

MeinBlutIstBlau wrote: post #83
slipframe wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Public universities can kick you out for expressing your 1st amendment right based off of whatever bs reason they want to give just to expel you. Yeah, and a company can fire you for being black if they give a bs excuse for it too. In both of these cases your rights are being violated and you can sue them for that. What's the alternative? I can't conceive of a system where it's impossible for your rights to be viol…

I'm coming from a perspective that the constitution of the united states is nothing but a farce unless you're rich enough to defend your rights in court. What is the purpose of having "rights" if I have to pay to fight for them? It's not a right then if institutions can trample on them as such.

(When the offense against you is criminal, it [is/may be] the government that foots the bill for prosecuting it. For instance, this is how it works with the Department of Labor when you report wage theft to them.)

What alternative do you propose? That we give up on the concept of rights entirely? Without offering constructive suggestions, it seems like you're letting perfect be the enemy of good.

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by hoka-one-one »

ralph84 wrote: post #22

No worries, Google will just sponsor a human rights award and award it to themselves to help them feel better about enabling human rights violations. They have the playbook perfected. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26880262

Or...Google is just doing its part to empower BIPOC by helping to dispel right-wing conspiracy theories about China.

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by justicezyx »

hnick wrote: post #91
justicezyx wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of Chinese brand advertising on YT. And there is a large population consuming YT videos through VPN, and oversea Chinese people myself for example (you can pretty much find every Chinese content creator with decent followers, probably >100k, mirror their video between Chinese ddomestic sites and YT.

I've heard China encourages/allows/supports some creators on YouTube for cultural export too. I mean if YouTube is 'banned' then someone like Dianxi Xiaoge with 7.5 million subscribers isn't exactly under the radar if they wanted to enforce their rules.

> China encourages/allows/supports

I don't know any such concrete measures to support some creators.

I do see that CCP wants to tell a more positive side of China on all sorts of media platforms. That in itself is pretty reasonable. I mean, certainly no other political group are going to say good things about China anyway.

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by nom »

toomanyrichies wrote: post #80

Honest question- what is Google's exposure here? Both Youtube and Google (Youtube's parent company) are blocked in China; those revenue streams were cut off a long time ago. What does Google have to lose by letting Youtube keep the videos up? I'm sure the exposure exists; I recognize that Googlers aren't stupid. I honestly am just curious what that risk is. Having lived in Shanghai for 5 years, I don't see China reve…

The answer you are looking for is: 1.5 billion people and a GDP with a hockey stick curve

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by paulryanrogers »

toomanyrichies wrote: post #80

Honest question- what is Google's exposure here? Both Youtube and Google (Youtube's parent company) are blocked in China; those revenue streams were cut off a long time ago. What does Google have to lose by letting Youtube keep the videos up? I'm sure the exposure exists; I recognize that Googlers aren't stupid. I honestly am just curious what that risk is. Having lived in Shanghai for 5 years, I don't see China reve…

Manufacturing capacity for Pixel phones?

Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative

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Post by LarryEt »

I think the only way to really fight this is to take it to a stupid level.

Something like try to take down all videos about aliens on the platform as misinformation.

I mean how can we take down all these videos but let videos about aliens be fine with zero proof for the existence of aliens? It is clearly conspiracy theory and misinformation.

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