I’m kind of curious here: if I were creating any service or running any group that had any chance of getting taken down completely from my provider (versus in the SRE sense of high availability), I would have multiple options on standby at the ready at all times, ready to deploy. This seems obvious, am I missing something here?
YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative
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Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative
#52How long until google’s PR team is replaced by an AI
too late
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#53Conspiracy nuts and other unsavory members from fringe communities do make for odd bedfellows when one is being actively censored, thus why I am loathe to promote Bitchute et al. Best second alternative would be their own Peertube instance, but that of course requires them to put up their own infrastructure.
Todays conspiracy is often tomorrow's orthodoxy. Society is better served by erring on the side of free speech and letting evolution decide what ideas are good and where are not. This was settled hundreds of years ago but apparently this generation did not get the memo.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have a hunch that a lot of division in the US atleast has some role or interference from Russia/China. No proof, but to me it makes sense and it is so easy to do, we've seen it happen in the past (Cambridge Analytica), and if I were an adversary of the United States, I would be trivial to sow discord amongst the populace. We're currently witnessing some fractures in the US military leadership as well. I don't mean…
Here's some evidence to support your hunch about Russia: > Across our interviews, our respondents [former and current RT journalists] agreed that the goals of the channel [RT] since 2008 have been and still are as follows. First, to push the idea that Western countries have as many problems as Russia. Second, to encourage conspiracy theories about media institutions in the West in order to discredit and delegitimize…
I haven’t looked at RT recently, but I didnt see conspiracy talk. I never saw a truther debate there. RT doesn’t have to lie at all to document many of the problems in the west. It was usually what should be Capt. Obvious stuff, stories not covered in the US media, Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan coverage, Snowden and Assange (take off the RT logo and the HN crowd would be orgasming to it), stories of racial inequality, financial fraud, crazy defense budgets, etc.
I suppose giving Commies like Chris Hedges and Noam Chomskys of the world a platform (that they can’t get in US media) is some noxious evil compared to mainlining on MSNBC or Fox.
Propaganda can be 100% true, and from what I remember, they were quite good at it.
Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative
#55Imagine the dirt the tech giants have on all government officials on the planet. Imagine if the tech giants went on a human rights offensive against the state.
Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative
#56I can understand the copyright stuff because Google can’t possibly afford the fight against the MPAA/RIAA. Why wade into politics though? What gain does Google obtain through political censorship?
I’m going to take a guess that perhaps it has to do with Google’s ability to continue to commercially operate in China. Perhaps X leadership from Google spoke with Y leadership from China and reached this compromise in order to avoid a potential all-out ban of Google’s services in China, similar to - though nowhere close to the same reasoning behind - the US’ ban of Huawei telecommunications equipment. PLEASE NOTE th…
I was going to say this as well. I, too, am neither affiliated with Google or China. This very much sounds like a, "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine," kind of thing IMHO.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Of course Russia and China are spreading it. You know the US has and does do this too right?
Of course - I’m not making any sort of moral declaration. I’m just amused at those who aren’t sure if Russia and China are poisoning Facebook - if they aren’t some apparatchik should be getting fired.
For sure. Facebook is like the Dulles brothers' wet dream.
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#58All Google and Alphabet current and former employees and investors are the creators of these tools used by evil.
Your point being? In the end anything and everything you do may end being used for evil by someone else. Even if you're a hermit in the woods, one day someone may use your old discarded axe to kill someone.
Re: YouTube takes down Xinjiang videos, forcing rights group to seek alternative
#59Conspiracy nuts and other unsavory members from fringe communities do make for odd bedfellows when one is being actively censored, thus why I am loathe to promote Bitchute et al. Best second alternative would be their own Peertube instance, but that of course requires them to put up their own infrastructure.
Todays conspiracy is often tomorrow's orthodoxy. Society is better served by erring on the side of free speech and letting evolution decide what ideas are good and where are not. This was settled hundreds of years ago but apparently this generation did not get the memo.
I hope this isn't true. Imagine if flat earth, anti-vaccines and 911 was faked becomes "orthodoxy". We'd be a regressed society.
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#60I'm sure YT is going to trot out some stock reason for not re-instating the videos. But this is pathetic. When YT goes on a bandwagon for some cause or other, this doesn't happen, but it appears to happen when the politics don't align with either their own politics or may offend one of their markets or their sponsors. So, I guess it's their platform and they can do what they want, but there is a danger that this will…
China isn't even a market for them since YouTube is blocked. That's what makes this even more pathetic.
There are plenty of Chinese brand advertising on YT. And there is a large population consuming YT videos through VPN, and oversea Chinese people myself for example (you can pretty much find every Chinese content creator with decent followers, probably >100k, mirror their video between Chinese ddomestic sites and YT.