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Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

Ozzie_osman wrote: post #69
rayiner wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an American who moved here from a Muslim country let me assure you Muslims are socialized to feel the same way about Jews. Took me a long time to see it. In high school I obviously supported Palestine and thought Israel was a settler colony (all of it, not just Gaza). Then I realized: wait why do I even care? I’m from 3,000 miles away in Bangladesh. In Bangladesh, people don’t even care about Bangladeshis being he…

It's almost like maybe you should care and speak out about Palestine and Bengladeshis in Qatar and Rohingya and Yemenis and Uighurs.

There are only so many hours in a day. This should be true at the community level, but an individual passionately caring about all of those injustices at once will end up spamming social media with advocacy because there is not enough time to pick any one to do something with greater impact.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by Ozzie_osman »

bradleyjg wrote: post #99
Ozzie_osman wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost like maybe you should care and speak out about Palestine and Bengladeshis in Qatar and Rohingya and Yemenis and Uighurs.

Are we allowed to anything else—-or just eat, sleep, and speak out about badness in the world?

You're right. I had to quit my job and stop caring for my family because I was spending so much time occasionally speaking up about things I thought were bad in the world.

I also occasionally donate small amounts to causes I believe in and so I better check my bank account because I'm probably broke.

/s

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

let_me_ask_this wrote: post #79
xupybd wrote: post #52

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It is hard to say Israel has less right to the land it took over than say New Zealand. The main difference is how long ago the settling happened.

In that case Israel should follow New Zealand's example and allow all Palestinians to become citizens, with full rights, stop being an ethnostate for Jews, stop with the racism and start behaving like the progressive country they pretend to be.

Perhaps they ought to set up their constitution to have a military pledged to the maintenance of a purely secular state that will overthrow any overtly religious government, no matter the electoral margins they earned when getting installed.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by tinyhouse »

Ozzie_osman wrote: post #72
werber wrote: post #20

As an American Jew who grew up with a distorted and racist world view in regard to Palestine this just feels like history repeating itself. The troubles that face Israelis have always been amplified over those of Palestinians in my experience. That control of the narrative led me to be actively racist for most of my life while thinking I was not and also morally superior. This kind of censorship has a body count, and…

The sad part is that you can get called an anti-Semite (or self-hating Jew) for expressing any sort of solidarity with Palestinians. The sadder part is that actual anti-Semites then jump in and use that situation to further their agenda.

The sad part is that many American jews are so worried about their image that they will automatically go against Israel no matter what.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by let_me_ask_this »

rayiner wrote: post #75
azifali wrote: post #21

As a progressive Muslim - I believe both Israel and Palestine have the right to exist, and thrive. Unfortunately, it looks like the state of Israel has now become a needless oppressor and are content building an apartheid state without learning from the past.

As a conservative former Muslim: As long as Palestinians chant “from the river to the sea” and tolerate Hamas any talk about a two state solution is a joke. By not rejecting Hamas, Palestinians make themselves a military problem rather than a civil rights issue. You don’t give civil rights to people who are military threat. This isn’t a point about morality, but the simple reality of nations protecting themselves. If…

The problem with peaceful protest is that it can only work if there is very strong international pressure to stop Israel, because they most definitely won't stop by themselves. The problem with expecting any international pressure, is that America vetos any such event, and Israel work really hard to make sure they always have the backing of all the countries that matter.

In any case, Hamas's existence is completely orthogonal to the reason for Israel's aggression. They want more land and less Palestinians on it.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by let_me_ask_this »

Google234 wrote: post #109
let_me_ask_this wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In that case Israel should follow New Zealand's example and allow all Palestinians to become citizens, with full rights, stop being an ethnostate for Jews, stop with the racism and start behaving like the progressive country they pretend to be.

If they did that then they would completely cease being a progressive country and would become an Islamist country.

I just want to point out that this nonsense is Islamophobia and should not be tolerated. Muslims are no less people than anyone else. They are not the cartoonish evil character that you believe them to be.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by dang »

deadite wrote: post #94

>Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok, among others, have more control over our voices than we did. What's the story here? These platforms and most social media/news outlets are either owned by Jews or have deep financially vested interests from Jewish VCs (yes, including TikTok). Of course you're going to be silenced on their platforms. Anyone getting in a kerfuffle that this is a topic point that can't be brought up isn't…

You can't do this here. I've banned this account.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by dang »

crooked-v wrote: post #101
deadite wrote: post #94

>Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok, among others, have more control over our voices than we did. What's the story here? These platforms and most social media/news outlets are either owned by Jews or have deep financially vested interests from Jewish VCs (yes, including TikTok). Of course you're going to be silenced on their platforms. Anyone getting in a kerfuffle that this is a topic point that can't be brought up isn't…

Please don't conflate "Jews in general" with "Israeli Jews" or "the Israeli government". These three things are not inherently the same.

"Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead."

a.k.a. please don't feed the trolls

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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