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Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by RocketOne »

hhjinks wrote: post #370
demux wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say power users complain but the casual user does not (as a result of these features) - this sort of position ruins reddit's community as it suggests that reddit doesn't really care about the members who have contributed all kinds of content over the years and instead favors trying to get new members who are just marginally interested, or worse, just like endlessly scrolling through a timeline. This thread has me…

> and instead favors trying to get new members who are just marginally interested, or worse, just like endlessly scrolling through a timeline You can literally see communities go to shit because of this. Actual content is pushed away as low effort content, easy-to-view-in-a-timeline content, claims the frontpage, because of what you said. It infuriates me to no end when communities I've frequented for years literally…

I thought I was overthinking it when I saw all this happening. I SO miss the reddit of 8 yrs ago.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by mlindner »

tmh88j wrote: post #381
asddubs wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think reddit did a rather clever thing in keeping around old.reddit.com. So power users got mad but they had a fallback, meanwhile the default experience is SPA dark pattern hell

For desktop, sure. I've tried a few mobile apps but the UI was worse than the mobile site in my opinion. I can deal with the UI of their mobile site, but all of the UX issues that OP mentioned keeps me away from it, so I never browse reddit on mobile devices. I just noticed a few users below mentioning that i.reddit.com exists, which seems to be a similar UI to old.reddit, but for mobile. From the couple minutes I've…

The power users were always desktop users anyway. I've only used reddit a couple times from mobile.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by RocketOne »

rd wrote: post #295
demux wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You say power users complain but the casual user does not (as a result of these features) - this sort of position ruins reddit's community as it suggests that reddit doesn't really care about the members who have contributed all kinds of content over the years and instead favors trying to get new members who are just marginally interested, or worse, just like endlessly scrolling through a timeline. This thread has me…

This happens with any social media. The great Digg exodus happened, and Reddit boomed. Reddit’s content and community grew healthily, then Reddit blew up exponentially, and now the content and community have grown sure, but very unhealthily. Actually, unhealthily for what Reddit used to be (long form content and discussion), healthily for what it’s becoming (social media a la infinite scroll, chat, and notifications…

I wonder if the next successor to reddit could possibly become successful by limiting its user base. Once it reaches a certain size, you can only join when someone else leaves. Or be put on a waiting list while you scroll and lurk.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by x0x0 »

minsc__and__boo wrote: post #297
411111111111111 wrote: post #247

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> streamlined signup flow It was more streamlined before. You literally only had to input a username and any password, no policies, email or anything else you had to adhere to/provide. I stopped using reddit back then after using it several hours daily for years, so not every power user ignored these changes

Sign up flows serve more purposes than just a funnel for new users (which IMO is part of a problem with how we build websites in general, but I digress). Anti-scam/fraud account identification can rely heavily on inputs up front. I'm honestly surprised reddit went so long without requiring other inputs, despite their rising popularity.

And account recovery.

People get real sad when you have to tell them that if they forgot a password, their account is simply gone. Email fixes that.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by j56no »

I was expecting something about user accessibility, eg like how impossible it is to tap the Upvote button in HN on smartphone and tablet. If UI is indicative of culture HN hates people not using a mouse.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by tygrak »

dredmorbius wrote: post #321

Tildes.net ( https://tildes.net ) has been a refreshingly sane, well-designed, and well-administered alternative. I all but completely gave up on Reddit for my own posting a couple of years ago, following an early set of "features" that I'd categorise more as "contemptuous" than "disprespectful". More deeply, Reddit simply isn't very good at fostering conversations . It does have depth, and there are communities whic…

Yes, Tildes is great, it is also a non-profit. The creator of Tildes, Deimos, also used to work at reddit and modded some of the better subreddits.

As an aside, the site is currently down for some updates for the first time in at least two years. Virtually 100% uptime, incredible.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by xmprt »

ishiz wrote: post #101
throwaway284534 wrote: post #82

Does anyone else want to rant about Reddit’s AMP pages that show up on Google? Oh I could go on about it… The managers at Reddit, in their infinite wisdom, decided that the preferred experience of a Google user searching for content on reddit should redirected to their wonky app. And if they don’t have the app, they should be punished with modals upon modals. “Reddit looks better in the app!” Oh, you disagree? Well p…

There is also a bug with the AMP pages such that the submission dates for the threads are often wrong. For example you're searching for threads that have been posted in the last month, some of the results will say something like "7 days ago" until you click and see it is actually 5 years old.

Reddit has a MASSIVE security vulnerability with their AMP pages and I really hope they get in trouble for it because of how much they shove it down people's throats.

It's possible to visible quarantined or even banned subreddits through their AMP pages. From there you can still view deleted videos and other content through the autoplay "previews".

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by TMWNN »

trainsplanes wrote: post #180
GordonS wrote: post #118

Fully agree with everything in TFA. I'm an occasional Reddit user, and almost exclusively a lurker. But over the past few years they have been making it more and more intolerable to use, especially on mobile. The most recent things have been blocking you completely from subreddits, and blocking you completely from threads below the second level (you hit "read more", and get a popup). And beside the many dark patterns…

It truly is incredible how a site that was perfectly usable over a decade ago has been massively updated to become unusable and with zero desirable features. I guess now there’s video embedding, but it’s the worst embedded video I’ve come across on a major site by far.

>I guess now there’s video embedding, but it’s the worst embedded video I’ve come across on a major site by far.

No way to get a URL for the video only, so there's no way to embed it elsewhere.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by Seattle3503 »

throwaway64643 wrote: post #313
egypturnash wrote: post #162

Why aren’t they pivoting into a marketplace instead? I'm just gonna guess this is because "supporting and policing a marketplace" is its own special kind of hell; supporting and policing a discussion forum is bad enough without adding on all the way monetary transactions can go awry.

Honestly, all suggestions from the original post is the epitome of "If everyone is stupid, then why aren’t you rich". The moment he suggested OnlyFans model on Reddit, all of his suggestions lost value. Do you know that OnlyFans even doesn't want to be OnlyFans anymore?

What do they want to be?

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by pixelpoet »

cecilpl2 wrote: post #260

My solution for good reddit browsing: * Use the Reddit Enhancement Suite browser extension, and customize to your liking. * Set it to permanent old.reddit.com mode, so all reddit links immediately go there. * Only browse reddit on mobile using one of several third-party apps, like Relay (my preference), Boost, or Apollo. * Extensively tailor your subreddit selection to weed out the garbage. Most if not all of the def…

They've recently (1-2 weeks) changed it so that you can't reject non-essential cookies from the new (non-old) reddit. So you go there, you say no I don't want your damn tracking crap, and then 2 days later you mysteriously get the prompt again; every 2 days.

Been on reddit for over 11 years, but I'm reaching the end of my patience for this shit too.

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