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Cloudproxy – hide your scrapers IP behind the cloud

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Re: Cloudproxy – hide your scrapers IP behind the cloud

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Are there even ethical or “official” ways to source residential IPs? I thought most of them were from botnet infected IoT devices.

I worked on a fairly large web-scraping project (around 2 million pages per day) and we used luminati. Amongst other things, they offer genuine residential proxies with user consent. https://brightdata.com/proxy-types/rotating-residential-ips

this company is run by a bunch of scam artists...they scammed me out of close to $10k

Re: Cloudproxy – hide your scrapers IP behind the cloud

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Even though I only do it for hobby projects, crawling pages is becoming increasingly difficult unless you are a big player like Google or Microsoft with a whitelisted IP range. I've had some success in scraping lately with a similar project called FlareSolverr(1). It's purpose it to get you access to sites which won't let you crawl unless you are using a real browser (e.g amazon, instagram). It doesn't hide your IP b…

Doesn't Amazon have an API? Why everyone wants to scrape Amazon? Honest question.

Amazon has one for their affiliates, you need to be approved and get 3 sales attributed to you in order to apply.

Re: Cloudproxy – hide your scrapers IP behind the cloud

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The access is only provided to active affiliates with sales. Amount of access is counted by number of sales too. More sales = more API access.

Thanks. This is very helpful. This information is not provided on the documentation.

API rates can be found here: https://webservices.amazon.com/paapi5/documentation/troubles...

Re: Cloudproxy – hide your scrapers IP behind the cloud

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I indirectly worked on a project for a company trying to create an in house web indexer to track user generated content to find trends. Like 80% of the work was making it look like the web scrapers weren't coming from an IP in the cloud.

The IPs for the different cloud providers are super well known, and the big guys either put you behind captcha hell, or just flat out block you if you're coming from one of them.

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Scraping a website in your analog analogy would be a store where those index cards would be plastered to the shop’s windows, visible from the outside. The “scraper” would come by every day and manually copy (as in, write in their own notebook) what was on those index cards that are visible from the street. So the question is: would you consider that stealing?

It's more like you going to the public library to borrow every single book they have. Thereby forcing the library staff to handle all your requests. You would probably not expect to be allowed to do this in real life.

Good point! There is an increased pressure on a public service. Hadn’t thought about that parameter.

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I worked on a fairly large web-scraping project (around 2 million pages per day) and we used luminati. Amongst other things, they offer genuine residential proxies with user consent. https://brightdata.com/proxy-types/rotating-residential-ips

Reading that page, the “user consent” is dependent on third parties who are monetizing their app through this service to inform their users. I … um … doubt the third party app developers give a crap to accurately describe the traffic that will subsequently emanate from their users’ devices. Just like everything else in this industry, the retort will be “but it’s the users fault! They didn’t scroll through the 2,375 p…

We don't need oppressive regulations; we simply need courts to adopt a sane definition of "agree".

If you're foisting an adhesion contract on more than 1,000 people, they are not deemed to have "agreed" unless a majority of a random sampling (say, ten) of them actually read and understood the entire document. Otherwise it's void. "Read and understood" is decided by a jury as part of any litigation involving the contract. "Random sampling" is made by court evidentiary procedures.

If the contract is negotiated or it was presented to less than 1,000 people the rules stay the way they currently are, since those are the kinds of contracts that English common law was developed for.

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Even though I only do it for hobby projects, crawling pages is becoming increasingly difficult unless you are a big player like Google or Microsoft with a whitelisted IP range. I've had some success in scraping lately with a similar project called FlareSolverr(1). It's purpose it to get you access to sites which won't let you crawl unless you are using a real browser (e.g amazon, instagram). It doesn't hide your IP b…

> puppeteer with stealth mode

I think sites like Zillow can detect after your third or fourth interaction that your actions aren't very human like and will prompt you a captcha.

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Thanks. This is very helpful. This information is not provided on the documentation.

API rates can be found here: https://webservices.amazon.com/paapi5/documentation/troubles...

Thanks. This is really annoying. Now I understand why people just want to scrape.
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