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Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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post #171

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>I manged to remove them...you go to All apps..scroll down to "Show system apps"...Android TV Home...Force stop... Uninstall updates => You will have old Home Screen https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/shield-tv/9/4579...

Wouldn't that mean you had an insecure device?

It's just the home screen so it shouldn't be that much of a security hole. If it were the OS it'd be a bigger concern.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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post #171

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>I manged to remove them...you go to All apps..scroll down to "Show system apps"...Android TV Home...Force stop... Uninstall updates => You will have old Home Screen https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/shield-tv/9/4579...

Wouldn't that mean you had an insecure device?

Not automatically.

So many updates these days have nothing to do with security, just with "feautes" nobody asked for apart from random product manager who needs his paycheck.

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I am hopeful that now that the FTC has a pro-consumer Chair that some of these anti-consumer acts will be curtailed. I would also argue that some of these bad acts could be considered to be false / deceptive trade practices under the various state laws (in the U.S. at least). For example, some people would never have bought a FireTV cube for streaming video if Amazon had revealed that they would be adding advertiseme…

I bought a FireStick 4k to connect to my monitor since most services won't steam 4k to the PC. Have been very disappointed that the whole experience seems to be geared around promoting content instead of allowing me to interact with the content I HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR.

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Roku started doing this (though seems less intrusive so far than this) and its why I ditched it for an AppleTV. My big fear is that Apple will do the same in years to come but for now it is all we have.

I'm hoping they have some idea that a chunk of their obscene levels of wealth comes from attracting customers who will opt for their garden to avoid the crap providers that push ads.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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There's only one correct answer: https://kodi.tv/ Works fine, but it is not the most stable software. Plenty of add-ons and themes, and (probably the reason why it's popular) you can sideload some pirate TV add-ons.

Last I used Kodi, it was a great app for, like, DIY entertainment management but utterly useless if you are expecting to use something like Spotify or YouTube. It has been a while though, so I might be outdated on this, but I'm guessing it's still not possible to log into spotify from it, browse the spotify library / your playlists, use device remote play from your phone to the tv, and so on. Same goes for youtube (t…

If you have Kodi on Android, you can have "links" (I don't remember the name in Kodi, sorry) for the Spotify, Youtube, Netflix, etc Android apps within Kodi.

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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They don't actually have to be in the same update, the security fix just has to come after the ad antifeature with no separate patches presented, only a linear series of versions. And that linear model is extremely common. Anything using the linear model that has both antifeature updates and security updates at unpredictable times is very likely to run into the “can't install the security update without accepting the…

Again: > I don't see the point of this stretched hypothetical. If it were to come up, then you could deal with accordingly - for instance by getting the update and then blocking the ad server somewhere upstream in your network path. And then not buying that brand's products in the future. And advising others not to buy them.

My point above was not about how to deal with it, but only to point in the direction of it being very very much not a “stretched hypothetical”, but a reality of a vast quantity of consumer software, including critical things that are difficult for people to replace. (My worldmodel doesn't judge your proposed counter very highly either, FWIW, but I don't feel up to arguing that part just now.)

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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If history taught us anything it’s that people will move to less friction platform. I was long time Google, but over the last few years I’ve almost migrated completely to Apple. I know a lot of developers in my field (video games) that have done the same. Google is using its size and reach to fill my products with ads. I’m not an ad id and I want to be treated as such. Also, why is android such a bad development plat…

tvOS has the same problem I’m afraid.

With ads that I can easily go into settings to turn off?

That’s the problem people are upset about is this is forced upon you with zero realistic alternatives. Apple puts it into the settings whereas you have to use adb to forcefully swap the launcher. That’s a pretty bog difference c

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Was deeply frustrated last year when it became clear in the US market at least that dumb TVs no longer exist, not unless one wants to pay the 4x premium for buying a gaming monitor and using it as a TV. Decided to buy an Android TV, one that would not need a network connection on the Android side for HDMI input mode to work, and just keep a computer plugged into it. Lack of sensible remote control is annoying. But fo…

From an older comment I made: Find the hospitality version of whatever you want from CDW (Samsung and LG do a lot of them, idk about Sony). They are designed for hotels and hospitals, and have the same picture quality but no smart stuff. An example from Samsung: https://www.cdw.com/product/samsung-678u-series-55-4k-uhd-le...

Thanks for the tip

Re: Reviews of Android TV launcher after Google added ads to the homescreen

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I wanted to use Samsung Health app but it now only runs if I add permission to make phone calls.

They changed it under guise of adding 2-factor auth, but the small print reads that they want my phone number so that my friends can discover me.

This is just a disgrace. They should not be allowed to change phone features after purchase.

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