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Some biologists and ecologists think social media is a risk to humanity

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Re: Some biologists and ecologists think social media is a risk to humanity

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I’m more interested in what would cause people to ignore their doctor and choose to believe whatever insane thing is on social media about, say, vaccines. There’s always been places you could go and find nonsense. But what’s different about this moment? What’s drawing people to nonsense? IMO social media gets the blame, but it’s just the vehicle for something darker happening. Something more about widespread nativism…

I agree with your point, but social media certainly appears to amplify the effect, regardless of what the root cause may be.

I wonder if perhaps the main problem is that social media changes the structure of human interaction by allowing those with similar ideas to congregate instead of being spread across the network in a diffuse manner.

Like in the 1970s if you believed that Aliens were here on Earth and abducting people, the vast majority of people you interacted with would think you’re a crackpot. It would be very difficult to find validation that your ideas are good.

Today you simply need to open a Facebook group for UFO conspiracy theorists and you’ve got all of the confirmation bias you need. It has never been easier to find people who agree with you.

Re: Some biologists and ecologists think social media is a risk to humanity

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Wasn't early Facebook all about connecting with friends and family and looking for boyfriend/girlfriend? Today I only hear something like "fake news, hate, racism, violence" etc.

I wonder what has changed? I think that it is not Facebook's management fault but the reality kicked in. Medium like Facebook is convenient for all type of content and interaction unlike Instagram for example which is more for showing off with photos and following other people's lives.

Re: Some biologists and ecologists think social media is a risk to humanity

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The media narrative that social media is the cause of these societal ills, especially environmental problems is laughable. The real danger technology poses is the increased leverage of ever-increasing automation consolidating in the hands of oligarchs who using it to enrich themselves and isolate themselves from the consequences with no regard for broader impact on the planet or future generations. Despite the proble…

Don’t you think social media impacts policy though?

Take your example of automation. Wouldn’t the way to counteract this be through smarter policy (like an automation tax as an off-the-cuff example).

I think the angle of the paper is that social media makes enacting smart policy that much harder because weaponized misinformation can be used to stymie such policy.

Re: Some biologists and ecologists think social media is a risk to humanity

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I think social media needs to be redefined. What the average person thinks social media is is very different than what it actually is. I think a lot of people think big social media platforms are actually communication platforms, they're not. They're designed intentionally to be difficult to communicate on. That the not the purpose of them, it's in the name 'social media' they are the media, you are the social. They…

Social media is as successful as it is precisely because it works so well as a communications paradigm. No popular social media platform is difficult to communicate on, they draw in so many users because they're easy to use.

My mother who can barely use Windows knows how to chat with me on Facebook. People use social media to communicate between friends, family, coworkers etc all the time. That's how all of that monetizable data gets generated.

Yes, the purpose of social media is to profit from user-generated content and data, but it still works as intended for 99% of people.

Re: Some biologists and ecologists think social media is a risk to humanity

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Wasn't early Facebook all about connecting with friends and family and looking for boyfriend/girlfriend? Today I only hear something like "fake news, hate, racism, violence" etc. I wonder what has changed? I think that it is not Facebook's management fault but the reality kicked in. Medium like Facebook is convenient for all type of content and interaction unlike Instagram for example which is more for showing off wi…

I'm 90% sure it's when they started personalizing the feeds. You only see things the algorithm thinks you're going to like, but it has a very shallow idea of you as a human being limited to your outward expression.

Then It pushes you further and further to the extremes of what it thinks you like.

People were warning about filter bubbles even before Facebook did it.

Re: Some biologists and ecologists think social media is a risk to humanity

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Wasn't early Facebook all about connecting with friends and family and looking for boyfriend/girlfriend? Today I only hear something like "fake news, hate, racism, violence" etc. I wonder what has changed? I think that it is not Facebook's management fault but the reality kicked in. Medium like Facebook is convenient for all type of content and interaction unlike Instagram for example which is more for showing off wi…

There's a lot of 'political' content on instagram. do a quick google search for 'politigram' and you'll see what I'm talking about. That being said, there are definitely per-platform affordances that may change the degree and extent to which its expressed (and, crucially, to whom).

Re: Some biologists and ecologists think social media is a risk to humanity

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I 100% think that social media is shrinking our collective attention spans, and the cumulative effects of this are unpredictable.

Infinitely scrolling through flashy, zero-effort "snackable" content is the equivalent of mental junk food.

Re: Some biologists and ecologists think social media is a risk to humanity

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This might be an unpopular opinion but I am getting very tired of academics thinking they can comment cross discipline and journalists somehow think it is worthy of writing an article about. This scientist isn't bringing any interesting, new ideas to the table, they are just repeating the same talking points pushed by mainstream "liberal" politicians.

> My sense is that social media in particular — as well as a broader range of internet technologies, including algorithmically driven search and click-based advertising — have changed the way that people get information and form opinions about the world. And they seem to have done so in a manner that makes people particularly vulnerable to the spread of misinformation and disinformation.

This is such an unbelievably shallow take. Much of the "truth" mainstream liberals have been pushing in the past year has turned out to be false. In the past, before the internet and social media, the media lied to the public all the time. It was probably easier because regular people didn't have a good way to spread primary information quickly. The media got most of their information from government press conferences and, if the government didn't like what an organization was saying, the government would stop inviting those journalists to those press conferences. There's a whole book about it, it's called Manufacturing Consent. That type of information control is no longer possible now that everyone can livestream from their phones to millions of people and the establishment is mad about it. Now they are trying to wrestle back control of information by writing think pieces about the dangers of "algorithms" and threatening tech giants with anti-trust action.

Its ironic because I feel like these people are the reason social media is a threat to society. They want to use it to manipulate the public like they always have and are willing to go to great lengths to do so.

Re: Some biologists and ecologists think social media is a risk to humanity

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This might be an unpopular opinion but I am getting very tired of academics thinking they can comment cross discipline and journalists somehow think it is worthy of writing an article about. This scientist isn't bringing any interesting, new ideas to the table, they are just repeating the same talking points pushed by mainstream "liberal" politicians. > My sense is that social media in particular — as well as a broad…

> This might be an unpopular opinion but I am getting very tired of academics thinking they can comment cross discipline

If academics can't comment cross discipline, no one else can comment at all.

Re: Some biologists and ecologists think social media is a risk to humanity

#30

This might be an unpopular opinion but I am getting very tired of academics thinking they can comment cross discipline and journalists somehow think it is worthy of writing an article about. This scientist isn't bringing any interesting, new ideas to the table, they are just repeating the same talking points pushed by mainstream "liberal" politicians. > My sense is that social media in particular — as well as a broad…

I didn’t know that being concerned about the impact of social media was strictly a liberal position.
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