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Whatever Happened to UI Affordances?

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Re: Whatever Happened to UI Affordances?

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post #41

Note that the default share UI in Android 11 (or is that LineageOS specific?) does indeed show more by swiping up. Firefox implements their own sharing UI and does side-swiping as well, but at least they went the Apple route of cutting some options off.

> ...went the Apple route of cutting some options of. Is this implying there's more to the comment if I side-swipe? Hrm. I think it's bugged.

Heh, fixed ;)

Re: Whatever Happened to UI Affordances?

#52
> Apple are slowly undoing their great usability work in the name of elegance.

Not slowly, or recently.

The big removal of affordances happened with IOS 7, and Jony Ive's "flat" UI aesthetic. Don Norman and Bruce Tognazzini, former Apple UI researchers and champions of UI affordances, wrote an essay[1] complaining about this problem in 2015.

It seems like this era might be slowly _ending_ now that Ive is gone.

[1] https://www.fastcompany.com/3053406/how-apple-is-giving-desi...

Re: Whatever Happened to UI Affordances?

#53

Note that the default share UI in Android 11 (or is that LineageOS specific?) does indeed show more by swiping up. Firefox implements their own sharing UI and does side-swiping as well, but at least they went the Apple route of cutting some options off.

That's true for Google's Android too, not just Lineage.

Re: Whatever Happened to UI Affordances?

#55
post #3

I don't understand exactly what the writer is complaining about. The thesis of the page is never explicitly stated. I see a complaint, "Hmmm. It didn't have the share destination that I wanted" yet the author never states what option they were looking for. I would agree that, via the screenshot, the default options are all over the place and not prioritized well. However, the "Copy link" option is clearly visible. Be…

The thesis is that the UI is not intuitive - that's exactly what the writer is complaining about.

Re: Whatever Happened to UI Affordances?

#56
Mac OS tripped me up with their new-ish “group things by month” in the recent folder. I didn’t realize those buckets were side scrollable. Scrolling is so easy to do that I’m not sure why it’s even necessary to limit the number of items in view. But I’ve been a computer user for a LONG time and was seriously stumped by this behavior because there was zero affordance to indicate there were more items. No less horizontally, which is very unexpected behavior.

Re: Whatever Happened to UI Affordances?

#57
People without much life experience, knowledge, mastery, humility, or expertise don't understand what things are used for, and decide for everyone else to throw them away as "unnecessary."

Put another way, it may well be some sort of Dunning-Kruger arrogance that the self-esteem crowd foists on the rest of us without our permission.

Re: Whatever Happened to UI Affordances?

#58

UI affordances have been going away for a long time. FlatUI was the first nearly universal obviously-user-hostile movement. It happened out of boredom and the slow intrusion of the contempt-for-the-audience attitude of art and architecture into web design. Unfortunately, unlike art, we can't ignore architecture or UI design.

So are those vast swathes of wasted whitespace in modern UI design an attempt to turn a UI into a gallery wall on which to display those intricately crafted icons?

And, as with the yale box[1], all icons will eventually converge on the same exact design.

Finally, the perfect UI (and modernist building) will have no differentiation at all. An exercise in pure, platonic intellectual/aesthetic navel gazing.

You are starting to see the post-modernist reaction in some places in web design, but, as with architecture, I anticipate it will play with forms out of boredom rather than do the hard, self-abgenating work of drawing out the good ideas of the past and humbly driving them forward.

Perhaps I am too cynical.

[1] - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41001.From_Bauhaus_to_Ou...

Re: Whatever Happened to UI Affordances?

#59

Sorry for this pedantic comment, but he is asking for signifiers not affordances. He wants affordances to be more perceptible. See Design of Everyday Things.

Is there a more intuitive word for "affordances" or similar? I find its definition is always debated or confused in the comments so I prefer to avoid it where possible.

Nope, that's the nomenclature and it means something very specific in the cases of architecture and UX. Affordances "afford" cues to the viewer that something has perceived action possibilities. It's the opposite of a hidden passageway door or a flat rectangle that doesn't have any cues to indicate that it's a button.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordance

Re: Whatever Happened to UI Affordances?

#60
The original Mac would pop up a dialog with a threatening icon of a bomb with a lit fuse, whenever it crashed!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomb_(icon)

>The Bomb icon is a symbol designed by Susan Kare that was displayed inside the System Error alert box when the "classic" Macintosh operating system (pre-Mac OS X) had a crash which the system decided was unrecoverable. It was similar to a dialog box in Windows 9x that said "This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down." Since the classic Mac OS offered little memory protection, an application crash would often take down the entire system.

Unfortunately, the Mac's bomb dialog could cause naive users to jump up out of their seat and run away from the computer in terror, because they though it was going to explode!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQGX3J6DAGw&ab_channel=Caitl...

And Window's "This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down" error message was just as bad: it could cause naive users to fear they might get arrested for accidentally doing something illegal!

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