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Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

#131

Does anyone else want to rant about Reddit’s AMP pages that show up on Google? Oh I could go on about it… The managers at Reddit, in their infinite wisdom, decided that the preferred experience of a Google user searching for content on reddit should redirected to their wonky app. And if they don’t have the app, they should be punished with modals upon modals. “Reddit looks better in the app!” Oh, you disagree? Well p…

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Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

#132
post #90

Not a power Reddit user here. I only stumble upon random posts that search engines throw my way when I'm looking things up so I might very well be missing something. The main questions: Considering all the bad practices, why people keep using Reddit and what makes it so great? Why people make custom clients instead of looking for a full-fledged alternative? The questions are genuine, not a sarcasm. The following is j…

> The main questions: Considering all the bad practices, why people keep using Reddit and what makes it so great? Why people make custom clients instead of looking for a full-fledged alternative?

Critical mass, and inertia. Reddit has already captured by far the largest share of foum users, and that isn't going to change any time soon.

I'm only an occasional user, generally arriving via a Google search, and it's the sheer quantity of posts that keep my searches hitting Reddit. Doesn't mean I like the UI/UX or their dark patterns tho - I can't bloody stand them!

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

#133
I run into a problem on Reddit all the time with Chrome on Android: the videos won't load and just stay frozen or black. The only fix seems to be restarting Chrome.

Do any hackers here know a permanent solution? Please don't say use another browser, I like Chrome :)

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

#134

Reddit is an absolutely grotesque website, both for these UI issues and the toxic hate it engenders on all the subreddits. It’s magnitudes worse than any other social network. I have a genuine question: do people openly say they work for this company or is it workplace where people have to hide that they are part of it?

> the toxic hate it engenders on all the subreddits. I always see people saying this and I have to wonder what subreddits they're subscribed to. My experience is basically fine, sure there's some shitty discussions or a few hostile idiots lurking about, but it's no worse than message boards generally, and most conversations seem rather good. Part of me wonders whether some posters are just extraordinarily sensitive,…

> I have to wonder what subreddits they're subscribed to.

Just look at r/all

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

#135
Reddit has completely jumped the shark in its UI design, the 'direction' its taken, and its basically complete capitulation to censorship at a corporate level. Its interesting to that they haven't IPO'd yet, because in my view, its a zombie carcass waiting for its replacement to find its way onto the net.

There has always been a place, a need, and a demand for anonymous, free form discussions on the internet. Craigslist community posts (those are still a thing too), Fark, SomethingAwful, Digg, Reddit, and yes, Hackernews. I get that there are difficulties in managing an anonymous community, especially in a world where things can go so toxic. But reddit is a walking corpse waiting to be taken over by a better product. Everything about the site, the community, the company is hot garbage, but there is no better alternative, so it walks on.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

#136
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that were true, it would've happened long ago. Say what you will about reddit's questionably/shitty policies, but they do a pretty decent job of keeping the extremists/racists/crazies/etc contained. Nearly every attempt at a reddit alternative over the years has been flooded by those types of people. Even if you ignore the fact that advertisers will avoid that community like a plague, the average person will want…

> Nearly every attempt at a reddit alternative over the years has been flooded by those types of people Yes, most of the time because they have advertised themselves as a "free-speech place". Of course the people these places attract are the "5G is a Jewish conspiracy to vaccinate everybody" kinda people

It would be interesting if it turns out reddit has a team to flood new competitors with unsavory accounts. It's exactly what they did when they started reddit, just with positive fake accounts instead of negative.

"Huffman said one other strategy proved crucial to Reddit’s early success, which most people are unaware of: The team submitted a ridiculous amount of content under fake user accounts to give the appearance of popularity."

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“The first thing it did was it set the tone,” by the activity it displayed to visitors, Huffman said. “We were submitting content that we would have been interested in seeing. That meant the content on Reddit … was good. And when you show up , you know exactly what the site is about.”

https://venturebeat.com/2012/06/22/reddit-fake-users/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/z4444w/how-reddit-got-huge-t...

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/reddi...

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

#137

Reddit has taken the approach of making their website worse instead of trying to make their app better.

And the official app still sucks.

Yeah, their app is incredibly buggy and doesn't support useful features like comment hyperlinks.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

#138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's atrocious that their main interface is like this, but have you tried i.reddit.com?

old.reddit.com is usable too. But for some reason it keeps logging me out, recently.

you’re not alone and it’s a common complaint. along with the complaint that toggling “opt out of redesign” is constantly coming untoggled randomly and without warning. This doesn’t even happen between browser sessions where one would think a cookie got dropped, it can happen simply between pages. one moment you’re using old reddit, click a comment link, boom..you’re back on the redesign and having to change the setting again.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

#139

The most disrespectful pattern I encounter regularly on reddit is that it forgets that I want the nicer, more compact interface. There will come a day when they remove it entirely, clearly, and that will be the end of my reddit usage, more or less.

How does it keep forgetting? I just change that in settings and it’s never forgotten or reverted for me.

It keeps forgetting for me too. That is to say, in my mobile browser and desktop browser I opt out of the redesign in favor of the old.reddit.com design, but about once per month it'll just revert back to the redesign. I don't think my cookies are being cleared because I'll stay logged in and I've never found any other setting that flips in the same way, it is only the Redesign opt-out that does this.

I don't know how to explain why many people say "this never happens to me" and other people say "this happens frequently."

While I'm on the subject, another grey pattern the article missed is the button to opt out of the redesign on mobile. When clicking the hamburger menu there used to be a button at the bottom called (iirc) "Opt out of Redesign." The same option exists today except they've moved it into a Settings submenu and renamed it "Request desktop site" which implies it's a temporary change.

Lastly, if you search you'll find threads where people say the web pages are sometimes rendered without any opt out button. I just opened an incognito window to test this and I simply cannot find a button to revert to the old design, even when using my mobile browser's Desktop Mode. So unless a visitor knows about old.reddit.com they are forced to use the new design.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

#140

Surely the most annoying thing is the endless requests to download the app. So irritating! I refuse to download it just because they insist so hard. Reddit is the most basic site ever, there is absolutely no need for me to have an app.

old.reddit.com is not mobile optimized at all, but still infinitely better than reddit.com. Alternatively, get one of the non-official apps (on Android I use rif).

rif made it so much more bearable to use reddit on mobile. But since I switched to ios I have not found an app that can compare to rif.
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