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Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by jablongo »

tailspin2019 wrote: post #191
jablongo wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think one proposal is to have advanced wide-field cameras placed in "locations of interest". This would be much like an optical observatory and would generate petabytes of data.

Do you have more details on this or a source? I’m curious!

This program (FRIPON) https://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/full_html/2020/12/aa38649-... was cited here https://www.3af.fr/global/gene/link.php?doc_id=3695&fg=1 as a candidate for repurposing for UAP detection. I'm not familiar with the legitimacy of the 3af french org, so perhaps should be taken w/ a grain of salt?

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Post by fhffbirrrer »

m777z wrote: post #189

> The UAPTF holds a small amount of data that appear to show UAP demonstrating acceleration or a degree of signature management. What exactly does "signature management" mean in this context? Cloaking?

Yeah, they respond somehow to being detected

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Post by [deleted] »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #40

A reminder that UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object. This is just a report on what the military saw in the air and could not identify. It neither confirms nor denies popular ideas about aliens visiting earth. In most cases, you can guess these are probably aircraft from other countries. In some cases, they may be experimental aircraft being developed in secret by some organization or other. I am someone who thi…

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Post by biofox »

greydius wrote: post #195
xbar wrote: post #76

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80 encounters with multiple sensors. 143 reliable encounters with one sensor (144 minus 1 balloon). RF emission in a few encounters. They could conceive of no explanation for any of them.. They have a lot of data and cannot explain much.

> reliable encounters with one sensor There's no such thing. An anomaly that doesn't appear on multiple sensors is a defect with your sensor.

That doesn't make sense. If I can see something that I can't smell, that doesn't imply that my eyes are defective.

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Post by skinkestek »

user-the-name wrote: post #168
marc_io wrote: post #111

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“The thing to notice is cameras have become much more prevalent and much higher resolution, but "UFOs" in pictures haven't.” Just two examples of high resolution UAP videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBQ1Ftj4hPE&ab_channel=OrdoN... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVmGhxYrkug&t=0s&ab_channel=... The problem is not resolution per se, but the fact that is quite easy nowadays to manipulate images and videos (I'm no…

They're not fake, they're just two videos of an insect flying past a drone.

The second, not unlikely at all.

The first doesn't look like an insect to me even after being primed by your comment prior to watching it.

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Post by etaoins »

krferriter wrote: post #69
m1 wrote: post #61

Not from this report, but these quotes are crazy: > "In this country we've had incidents where these UAPs have interfered and actually brought offline our nuclear capabilities" [1] > "We also have data suggesting that in other countries these things have interfered with their nuclear technology and actually turned them on, put them online." [1] How is stuff like this possible or is it just hyperbole? [1] - https://ww…

Some weapons systems may be configured to automatically power on to a more ready (as opposed sitting in low power sleep mode) mode (not launch) when unknown objects appear on a sensor system. Whether this is a wise way to do things stands to be seen.

Nuclear weapons do not have situational awareness. They’re intended to be used as part of a larger deployment system with a human in the loop. There’s no threat model for them that includes self-arming when mysterious aircraft approach their storage location.

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Post by tailspin2019 »

jablongo wrote: post #211
tailspin2019 wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have more details on this or a source? I’m curious!

This program (FRIPON) https://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/full_html/2020/12/aa38649-... was cited here https://www.3af.fr/global/gene/link.php?doc_id=3695&fg=1 as a candidate for repurposing for UAP detection. I'm not familiar with the legitimacy of the 3af french org, so perhaps should be taken w/ a grain of salt?

Interesting!

Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by marc_io »

skinkestek wrote: post #215
user-the-name wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not fake, they're just two videos of an insect flying past a drone.

The second, not unlikely at all. The first doesn't look like an insect to me even after being primed by your comment prior to watching it.

There's a pretty meticulous review of the second video out there — the raw vídeo was available online for some time — that proves it's neither bug nor CGI.

I haven't found any analysis of the first one though, it could be CGI but it doesn't seem to be an actual bug.

Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by oceanghost »

jablongo wrote: post #209
oceanghost wrote: post #149

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Its part of some deliberate disinformation campaign. All the videos released thus far have been thoroughly debunked by the likes of thunderf00t. If there are non-debunked videos, I am not aware of them. Most of the news coverage involves Lt. David Fravor, Bob Lazar or Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell. Why this stuff is being leaked? I cannot fathom. I assume we are signaling to some foreign entity our ability to track i…

Can you link to the thorough debunkings you are talking about?

I'd be happy to.

Debunking of UFO videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfhAC2YiYHs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3viYcYPRdu4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCH7BWGpl5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th4VlqQyVr4

Bob Lazar debunk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghkFTRY4ZB0

Re: Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

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Post by oceanghost »

giantrobot wrote: post #166
oceanghost wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its part of some deliberate disinformation campaign. All the videos released thus far have been thoroughly debunked by the likes of thunderf00t. If there are non-debunked videos, I am not aware of them. Most of the news coverage involves Lt. David Fravor, Bob Lazar or Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell. Why this stuff is being leaked? I cannot fathom. I assume we are signaling to some foreign entity our ability to track i…

> I assume we are signaling to some foreign entity our ability to track items as small as birds This strikes me as the most likely scenario. While large (small plane size) military drones have been around for decades much smaller (bird size) ones have begun to proliferate. These small drones don't have the duration or capabilities of larger ones but they're good enough for a lot of tasks. They're made of composites a…

I think that's exactly it.

I'd also like to add that, of all the claims made about incredible flight characteristics of these UFOs-- none of the videos are of anything like that.

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