“Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out” • Hacker News Board

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by trompetenaccoun » Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 4:11 AM UTC

fapjacks wrote: post #190

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #183

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How? where do you save it all and how do you find the time?

Hello! Data hoarders [0] like myself use tons of automation for this task. For online videos specifically, I watch them locally so as to avoid as much telemetry as possible, and when I see a video I want to watch, I save it to a playlist. Then I have youtube-dl set up so that it will sync with the playlist and download any new videos that it doesn't already have. Your question about finding the time is on the money:…

Thanks for the explanation. Saving it when it comes up makes sense, I somehow imagined someone specifically going out there to download it all like a madman.

Probably should do the same when I get around it. You're absolutely right about the way the internet has developed. In addition to the privacy concerns now it looks like data availability will be an increasing issue with sites removing or limiting access left and right.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by Ruthalas » Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 6:54 AM UTC

fapjacks wrote: post #144

Smithalicious wrote: post #70

This makes me sad, I remember quite a few unlisted videos going around for one reason or the other over the years. Videos meant to be watched, mind. There's lots of old stuff on YouTube from long dead small channels. This stuff rots and disappears over time with nobody around to maintain it. I guess it's a good reminder that everything needs maintenance. Something similar, but much more dramatic, happened once they g…

It's been clear to me we're at the tail end of the golden age of online videos and I and many others have been furiously downloading in preparation for the inevitable.

I run a discord server for others downloading youtube content.

We maintain a list [1] of content that various members have archived, such that when content is removed from youtube, people can direct inquiries to contributors who have archived that content. It's a small way to keep track of what things have been successfully archived.

We are currently organizing some efforts to find and download unlisted videos.

Feel free to check us out here: https://discord.gg/EJvS4kf

[1] https://tinyurl.com/v4rpe9w

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by Ruthalas » Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 6:58 AM UTC

coryrc wrote: post #140

rib3ye wrote: post #56

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Does youtube-dl support playlists?

I have a script running nightly to backup my playlists

I run a discord server for others downloading youtube content.

We maintain a list [1] of content that various members have archived, such that when content is removed from youtube, people can direct inquiries to contributors who have archived that content. It's a small way to keep track of what things have been successfully archived.

We are currently organizing some efforts to find and download unlisted videos.

Feel free to check us out here: https://discord.gg/EJvS4kf

[1] https://tinyurl.com/v4rpe9w

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by Ruthalas » Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 7:07 AM UTC

Causality1 wrote: post #34

barosl wrote: post #2

That's unfortunate. I have a few videos which seems to have been forgotten even by their uploaders. Those videos would probably not be updated. I guess I need to back them up manually.

Yes. I always tell people that if they really love a YouTube video they need to archive it themselves. Tons and tons of content gets erased all the time for many different reasons. Just recently I found two of my favorite channels, popular around a decade ago, had deleted almost all their content because their jokes were too offensive for today's audience and they wanted to project a more mature aesthetic. That would…

If you feel like chatting with others who also archive youtube content, consider stopping by my discord server: https://discord.gg/EJvS4kf

We maintain a list [1] of content that various members have archived, such that when content is removed from youtube, people can direct inquiries to contributors who have archived that content.

It's a small way to keep track of what things have been successfully archived, and occasionally direct efforts to preserve specific content- like unlisted videos right now.

[1] https://tinyurl.com/v4rpe9w

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by judge2020 » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 8:24 PM UTC

resoluteteeth wrote: post #136

QuercusMax wrote: post #82

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Seems highly unlikely to me (a Google engineer who works on systems that use Zanzibar / Cloud IAM) that this is a result of anything other than a change in policy.

This person seems to believe it's a security issue with video ids, but maybe that's not related to Zanzibar: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27611436

I still find it odd why the Google Drive change would be related to this, but maybe they're not related besides that date being 'migration day'.

Re: “Older unlisted videos will be made private unless you opt out”

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Post by themadprogramer » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 12:36 PM UTC

the_benno wrote: post #61

newsclues wrote: post #49

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Maybe critical training materials should not be published to YouTube?

"should not be published" is very different from "are not published"

agreed. YouTube as a platform has shifted away from hosting to "publishing" and edge-cases like this are unfairly tossed to the side.