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Re: Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass”

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Post by chris_wot »

jollybean wrote: post #172
hedora wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect the downvotes are because your comment could be shortened to “My worry here is that this will inconvenience the marketing drones, distracting them from maximizing our suffering as they burn the planet down”. (Upvoted; thanks for the insightful comment.)

I don't think my comment could be shortened to that because the primary thrust points to the nature of how people react to in-store presentation and how that affects us. Almost all of the commentary on this board is missing 'the most obvious points' from a consumer retail perspective. Issues such as privacy, invasive advertising are obviously relevant, but if we are 'thinking retail' this is going to be about shoppin…

I must be one of the few people who actually do know what they want when they go into the store. I want juice, eggs, butter, milk and cheese. Or I need cat food. That’s what I get. I often have wander about the store, but it is extremely rare that I get something other than what I have chosen to get.

Re: Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass”

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Post by yumraj »

LeftHandPath wrote: post #29
yumraj wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some bean counter came up with the idea that they have a captive audience which they can force to watch ads. I think this is one of the stupidest things I’ve seen. But to be honest, I won’t be surprised if this actually increases revenue since people are going to buy what they buy and it’s not like they will go to another store due to this.

I think I would go to another store due to this. I think that non-HN type people like my dad or my mom would probably go to another store due to this. Not being able to see what's behind the glass makes it take longer to shop. People abandon webpages that don't load quickly enough - why wouldn't they abandon stores where you have to open each door on an aisle of refrigerators just to see what's available?

Because changing stores is not as easy as clicking away from websites. This could be due to choice of items that are available, price, distance from home/office and so on. And, not to forget inertia/habits. Also, what’s behind those doors is only a part of the shopping list.

I think most people will be annoyed, curse it, and then get used to it.

I would love to be proven wrong since this is not the direction we should be going.

Re: Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass”

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Post by seventytwo »

readams wrote: post #135
burnt_toast wrote: post #127

The year is 2050 and your dingy old toaster has finally given up it's last crumbs. You hop onto Amazon in hopes of finding a suitable replacement as there's no longer any box stores you can travel to. Dumb appliances have been phased out and newer internet connected appliances have taken over. It's better for the consumer they claim. Not wanting an overtly fancy contraption you pick a no frills unit that includes a t…

You forgot the part where it refuses to toast your unlicensed bread.

Every slice has unique nooks and crannies to create a 2D pattern, allowing for DRM and personalization!

Re: Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass”

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Post by jasonhansel »

burnt_toast wrote: post #127

The year is 2050 and your dingy old toaster has finally given up it's last crumbs. You hop onto Amazon in hopes of finding a suitable replacement as there's no longer any box stores you can travel to. Dumb appliances have been phased out and newer internet connected appliances have taken over. It's better for the consumer they claim. Not wanting an overtly fancy contraption you pick a no frills unit that includes a t…

Later, when it's discovered that the toaster occasionally catches on fire, users are encouraged to pay $9.99 per month for "Toaster Plus," which causes an alarm to play before the fire starts, so that you know to get the extinguisher.

Then they let you customize the alarm noise, so that you can choose how to be alerted of the future house fire. Soon, companies get rich selling $3 "toaster fire ringtones."

Eventually, even after fire-less toasters are "invented," people prefer the old, "still catching on fire" ones, since "toasters have always worked that way."

Re: Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass”

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Post by failwhaleshark »

burnt_toast wrote: post #127

The year is 2050 and your dingy old toaster has finally given up it's last crumbs. You hop onto Amazon in hopes of finding a suitable replacement as there's no longer any box stores you can travel to. Dumb appliances have been phased out and newer internet connected appliances have taken over. It's better for the consumer they claim. Not wanting an overtly fancy contraption you pick a no frills unit that includes a t…

I don't want an ESP32 or an ARM in my toaster.

I don't want bluetooth in my toaster. That shit is hard to clean.

I don't want a flashing OLED emoji on my toaster judging my diet. I do plenty of that myself: flashing emoji.

I don't want a toaster with a "personality." I want it to toast, only toast, and nothing but the toast, so help its electronic soul.

Sunbeam Radiant Control: ride or die. Anything made after the 60's is junk by definition.

Re: Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass”

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Post by 3np »

burnt_toast wrote: post #127

The year is 2050 and your dingy old toaster has finally given up it's last crumbs. You hop onto Amazon in hopes of finding a suitable replacement as there's no longer any box stores you can travel to. Dumb appliances have been phased out and newer internet connected appliances have taken over. It's better for the consumer they claim. Not wanting an overtly fancy contraption you pick a no frills unit that includes a t…

WiFi password? Even by 2035ish it’d come with integrated mobile data so the user won’t have to worry about ensuring it has consistent network access to the mothership.

Re: Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass”

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Post by whoisburbansky »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #170
burnt_toast wrote: post #127

The year is 2050 and your dingy old toaster has finally given up it's last crumbs. You hop onto Amazon in hopes of finding a suitable replacement as there's no longer any box stores you can travel to. Dumb appliances have been phased out and newer internet connected appliances have taken over. It's better for the consumer they claim. Not wanting an overtly fancy contraption you pick a no frills unit that includes a t…

2 years later, Amazon discontinues updates on the toaster. No one notices, but it still toasts. 8 years later, people hack them and cause them to burn down some houses. Of course, it was the owner's fault - they were running a discontinued toaster that wasn't receiving software updates anymore.

This sounds eerily like the WD hard drive debacle going on right now.

Re: Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass”

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Post by failwhaleshark »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #176
bcrosby95 wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

2 years later, Amazon discontinues updates on the toaster. No one notices, but it still toasts. 8 years later, people hack them and cause them to burn down some houses. Of course, it was the owner's fault - they were running a discontinued toaster that wasn't receiving software updates anymore.

Thankfully my seven year old iToaster hasn’t succumbed to the same fate. Yet.

The iTailer will shutdown all servers for that model on Jan 10, 2021, rendering it a glorified paperweight. Sorry.

They said the next newer model of that will no longer receive updates at the same time.

Re: Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass”

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Post by dvtrn »

mixedmath wrote: post #149
readams wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot the part where it refuses to toast your unlicensed bread.

For those unaware, this is exactly the main point of the story "Unauthorized Bread" by Cory Doctorow. I liked the story and would recommend it.

A link to an exerpt: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/01/unauthorized-bread-a-...

Re: Sorry, we replaced that old technology, “see-through glass”

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Post by hkmurakami »

burnt_toast wrote: post #127

The year is 2050 and your dingy old toaster has finally given up it's last crumbs. You hop onto Amazon in hopes of finding a suitable replacement as there's no longer any box stores you can travel to. Dumb appliances have been phased out and newer internet connected appliances have taken over. It's better for the consumer they claim. Not wanting an overtly fancy contraption you pick a no frills unit that includes a t…

But can I cancel my pro subscription without calling a support number? If so I may accept my dispotian fate with Grace and resignation.
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