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Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
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#72There are some smug looking dudes at Lockheed right now
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#73A reminder that UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object. This is just a report on what the military saw in the air and could not identify. It neither confirms nor denies popular ideas about aliens visiting earth. In most cases, you can guess these are probably aircraft from other countries. In some cases, they may be experimental aircraft being developed in secret by some organization or other. I am someone who thi…
> In most cases, you can guess these are probably aircraft from other countries. From the report: "We currently lack data to indicate any UAP are part of a foreign collection program or indicative of a major technological advancement by a potential adversary."
They also say: "We are
conducting further analysis to determine if breakthrough technologies were demonstrated."
Basically, the summary of the report is that there are 10+ incidents that they cannot explain to what they believe is insufficient data, so please give them more money so they can collect and analyze more data to try and identify them.
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#74Nine pages? All this hoopla for the month leading up to the release and we get NINE measly pages with no supporting documentation? am I missing something? I expected to see something similar in quality/detail to an FAA accident investigation, this is a worthless executive summary.
I would not call it a report either, this is a request for more funding, the last sentence is: > The UAPTF has indicated that additional funding for research and development could further the future study of the topics laid out in this report. I would be more interested in a BEA style analysis of each incident. But at least it lays down some possible causes: - Airborne Clutter - Natural Atmospheric Phenomena - USG or…
Problem is that pretty much everyone here can lay those causes easily...
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#75Next: A conspiracy theory that the government is covering up the fact that UFOs don't exist.
The government doesn't want us to know that everyone, everywhere is able to identify, with 100% certainty, all flying object ever encountered. If we knew how powerful we actually are, Big Brother would never be able to control us!
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#76Direct link to the PDF report: https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Prelima... > "Most of the UAP reported probably do represent physical objects given that a majority of UAP were registered across multiple sensors, to include radar, infrared, electro-optical, weapon seekers, and visual observation." > "Some UAP appeared to remain stationary in winds aloft, move against the wind, maneuver abruptly, or…
80 encounters with multiple sensors.
143 reliable encounters with one sensor (144 minus 1 balloon).
RF emission in a few encounters.
They could conceive of no explanation for any of them..
They have a lot of data and cannot explain much.
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#77A reminder that UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object. This is just a report on what the military saw in the air and could not identify. It neither confirms nor denies popular ideas about aliens visiting earth. In most cases, you can guess these are probably aircraft from other countries. In some cases, they may be experimental aircraft being developed in secret by some organization or other. I am someone who thi…
Bill Nelson sorta said as much in this interview: https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/06/04/ufo-nasa-navy...
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#78From a first skim, it looks intentionally vague and noncommittal, and in classic form, released on a Friday afternoon to minimize coverage. Also of note: there was no input at all drawn from the CIA, which is the agency most frequently associated with the topic for a variety of reasons, aside from the Air Force. "The majority of UAP data is from U.S. Navy reporting [i.e. not in-the-know] , but efforts are underway to standardize incident reporting across U.S. military services..."
I'm also unconvinced they used serious statistical rigor in finding correlations around where sightings occur. For a better analysis of the UAP phenomenon in France, which concludes with a very low p value that there is a relationship between UAP's and nuclear facilities, see: [0].
Despite the baby steps being made in the process of disclosure, it seems more and more likely that deliberate disclosure has been and will continue to be a multi-decade, slow drip of information with no particularly historic address saying "There is nonhuman intelligence visiting and engaging with Earth. We could not tell you before for national security reasons, but now we can tell you." At least, not without many years of plausibly deniable hints before-hand.
[0] https://cnes-geipan.fr/sites/default/files/2015-09-01_Spatia...
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#79The only thing they left out was swamp gas as a possible explanation (RIP Hynek). Seems like another whitewash, "it can't possibly be happening" report. If you spend some serious effort on this and stay away from the crazies you'll come to the opposite conclusion of this report. A good starting point is Vallee's books.
Not a person who has looked much into this stuff, but the videos you see online lately sure seemed impressive. FWIW, I felt educated by videos by Mick West, who is a debunker. Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwa-yYCEGEc&t=1316s is one that a technical person such as an HN reader might like.
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#80I just can't imagine these are not non-US Military drones.
I think the problem is in the US we think of drones as the DJI phantom and not FPV drones.
I mean if you look at FPV pilots like Johnny FPV or Mr Steele on youtube then extrapolate out a few billion $ on research and development you would end up with something completely alien.