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Re: Gnome Shell updates for 3.2

#11

Post by rbanffy »

ch0wn wrote: post #5
thristian wrote: post #4

Ubuntu switched their default UI from GNOME 2.x to Unity in 11.04, and after trying it out for a while I decided it felt clunky and awkward, so I decided to try out GNOME 3 from the official unofficial PPA - and man, I'm glad I did. The overall feel is just... more polished than Unity, and even more polished than GNOME 2.x. I like being able to bring up the overlay with a keystroke, then start typing the name of the…

The one thing I really like about Unity is the ability to switch between the windows with Super + [1-9]. Is there a similar functionality in Gnome 3/Shell?

I hate that. I had a ton of Emacs shortcuts mapped to Super combos... Now I need a keyboard with a Hyper key...

Re: Gnome Shell updates for 3.2

#12

Post by sciurus »

ch0wn wrote: post #5
thristian wrote: post #4

Ubuntu switched their default UI from GNOME 2.x to Unity in 11.04, and after trying it out for a while I decided it felt clunky and awkward, so I decided to try out GNOME 3 from the official unofficial PPA - and man, I'm glad I did. The overall feel is just... more polished than Unity, and even more polished than GNOME 2.x. I like being able to bring up the overlay with a keystroke, then start typing the name of the…

The one thing I really like about Unity is the ability to switch between the windows with Super + [1-9]. Is there a similar functionality in Gnome 3/Shell?

I use Unity every day at work and Gnome 3 every day at home. There are two things about Unity that make me like it a lot more than Gnome 3:

1) The window placement. Since in both Unity and Gnome 3 you can't replace the window manager, having some measure of tiling built in is a necessity. In Unity you can manually tile windows using the Ctrl-Alt-Numpad keys. Gnome 3 just has the much more limited "aero snap" feature. From what I've seen on the mailing list, there's interest by outside developers in adding tiling to Gnome 3 but it won't be easy.

2) The fixed workspaces. I like to have a fixed number of workspaces on a grid so I can place certain windows on specific workspaces and easily switch to them. Unity allows this. Gnome 3 dynamically creates and destroys workspaces, and it lays them out on a line. This eliminates a lot of the value in workspaces for me.

Re: Gnome Shell updates for 3.2

#13

Post by tapoxi »

bho wrote: post #10
jamesgeck0 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Gnome 3's system tray still off-limits to 3rd party applications? I like having Dropbox's sync indicator and Tomboy's note list running in the tray, and I'm not sure how that functionality would be replicated in Gnome 3.

Dropbox's sync indicator is still in the corner for me, just as it always has been, so it seems to work fine. How is everyone's alt-tab performance? I've been trying to like it, but alt-tab is so slow that it's barely usable. I don't have another GNOME3 computer to compare it to, so I don't know if it's something wrong with my configuration or hardware.

I've been running Gnome 3 on Fedora 15 and Ubuntu 11.04 (via the PPA) on my Thinkpad W500 since April or so.

This laptop has a discrete (FireGL 5700) and integrated graphics (GMA 4500) chip I can toggle between for power management reasons. No performance issues, alt-tab or otherwise, under either.

It's been such a solid desktop that it's been my main development environment for these past few months.

Re: Gnome Shell updates for 3.2

#15

Post by thingie »

jamesgeck0 wrote: post #8
thristian wrote: post #4

Ubuntu switched their default UI from GNOME 2.x to Unity in 11.04, and after trying it out for a while I decided it felt clunky and awkward, so I decided to try out GNOME 3 from the official unofficial PPA - and man, I'm glad I did. The overall feel is just... more polished than Unity, and even more polished than GNOME 2.x. I like being able to bring up the overlay with a keystroke, then start typing the name of the…

Is Gnome 3's system tray still off-limits to 3rd party applications? I like having Dropbox's sync indicator and Tomboy's note list running in the tray, and I'm not sure how that functionality would be replicated in Gnome 3.

No, systray icons are displayed (and can be accessed and interactively used) in the bottom right corner, which is, however, shown only when you push your mouse cursor there, or when some notification shows up. The area left of the username (right top corner, no idea how it's called) is available only to the gnome-shell extensions that you have to install and turn on/off.

I like it, though there are some problems, like quite often missing Empathy IM notifications (given that we use jabber quite a lot in the work...).

Re: Gnome Shell updates for 3.2

#16

Post by thingie »

bho wrote: post #10
jamesgeck0 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Gnome 3's system tray still off-limits to 3rd party applications? I like having Dropbox's sync indicator and Tomboy's note list running in the tray, and I'm not sure how that functionality would be replicated in Gnome 3.

Dropbox's sync indicator is still in the corner for me, just as it always has been, so it seems to work fine. How is everyone's alt-tab performance? I've been trying to like it, but alt-tab is so slow that it's barely usable. I don't have another GNOME3 computer to compare it to, so I don't know if it's something wrong with my configuration or hardware.

Good. No problem.

On the other hand, typing anything in the activities overlay is very painful. I do it only by a mistake, because it's sooo slow, not only for the first time, but always. So is switching from Windows to Applications.

Re: Gnome Shell updates for 3.2

#17

Post by nodata »

bho wrote: post #10
jamesgeck0 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Gnome 3's system tray still off-limits to 3rd party applications? I like having Dropbox's sync indicator and Tomboy's note list running in the tray, and I'm not sure how that functionality would be replicated in Gnome 3.

Dropbox's sync indicator is still in the corner for me, just as it always has been, so it seems to work fine. How is everyone's alt-tab performance? I've been trying to like it, but alt-tab is so slow that it's barely usable. I don't have another GNOME3 computer to compare it to, so I don't know if it's something wrong with my configuration or hardware.

alt+tab is the same speed as it always was. are you running on a really old pc by any chance?

Things I dislike about Gnome 3.0:

* Alt-tab is between apps, with alt+(thing above tab) for between windows in an app

* Super+L doesn't work from the zoomed out view

* Screen lock is partially broken: gnome-screensaver doesn't guarantee to lock the screen when switching users or suspending. It continues on whatever happens.

Re: Gnome Shell updates for 3.2

#18

Post by ninwa »

yoklov wrote: post #7

I've been using GNOME 3 on Fedora 15 for a while now and I'm pretty pleased with it, that being said, it's far from perfect. There are several interface choices they've made that remove what I would consider obviously desirable functionality and hide it away or remove it outright. Removing shutdown and restart from the user menu. Sure, if I hold down option or control or whatever the key is those menus appear, and of…

I've been using F15 since it was released and these are both things that had user add-on patches within a week. Finnbarr Murphy is responsible for a great deal of extensions that I use: http://www.fpmurphy.com/gnome-shell-extensions/

Re: Gnome Shell updates for 3.2

#19

Post by nuclear_eclipse »

nodata wrote: post #17
bho wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dropbox's sync indicator is still in the corner for me, just as it always has been, so it seems to work fine. How is everyone's alt-tab performance? I've been trying to like it, but alt-tab is so slow that it's barely usable. I don't have another GNOME3 computer to compare it to, so I don't know if it's something wrong with my configuration or hardware.

alt+tab is the same speed as it always was. are you running on a really old pc by any chance? Things I dislike about Gnome 3.0: * Alt-tab is between apps, with alt+(thing above tab) for between windows in an app * Super+L doesn't work from the zoomed out view * Screen lock is partially broken: gnome-screensaver doesn't guarantee to lock the screen when switching users or suspending. It continues on whatever happens.

> with alt+(thing above tab) for between windows in an app

Wow, I really wish I would have known about that a long time ago. Alt-tab only working between applications was so annoying that I found an extension that reverted to an old-school alt-tab behavior, except now it operates between all windows regardless of what workspace they are on...

Alt-` is fantastic.

Re: Gnome Shell updates for 3.2

#20

Post by wavded »

ch0wn wrote: post #5
thristian wrote: post #4

Ubuntu switched their default UI from GNOME 2.x to Unity in 11.04, and after trying it out for a while I decided it felt clunky and awkward, so I decided to try out GNOME 3 from the official unofficial PPA - and man, I'm glad I did. The overall feel is just... more polished than Unity, and even more polished than GNOME 2.x. I like being able to bring up the overlay with a keystroke, then start typing the name of the…

The one thing I really like about Unity is the ability to switch between the windows with Super + [1-9]. Is there a similar functionality in Gnome 3/Shell?

I have seen a plugin on WebUpd8 for this functionality in Gnome Shell but don't have the link ATM.
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