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Re: Slamming political rivals may be the most effective way to go viral

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Post by azinman2 »

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #34
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>> political reporting is basically TMZ for boring, ugly people. Can I get that on a TShirt please ? (And yes, was it Nietscheze who says politicians are just sales people for their manifestos?)

Are they even that anymore? That seems like it would be an improvement. Now it seems like they're just cast members doing product placement for someone else's manifesto.

Not even a manifesto. If you look at people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, their rise is basic upon mutual dislike, and nothing more. Just a willingness to “own” the other side. There is no manifesto (unless you consider god, guns and glory a manifesto), just hatred. And it’s extremely engaging for their respective base. I don’t blame the politicians per se, in some ways it’s democracy at work if that’s what the people want. We need to change what people fundamentally want to not be based upon us vs them mentality.

Re: Slamming political rivals may be the most effective way to go viral

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Post by [deleted] »

wyager wrote: post #55
trentnix wrote: post #28

Well yes, because all political reporting is basically TMZ for boring, ugly people. It molds politics into some fantasy world of rap battles and gang fights rather than a productive discussion about making good policy. And if your first impulse is to think well yeah because the other side blah blah , you're part of the problem too.

Dimwit: politics is like a gang fight Midwit: politics is actually about making good decisions for society Topwit: politics is like a gang fight

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Re: Slamming political rivals may be the most effective way to go viral

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Post by david422 »

anm89 wrote: post #8

I've noticed this hilarious thing where within the left leaning media sphere, the only verbs that Ocasio-Cortez and to a lesser degree Bernie ever engage in is "slamming". They don't eat, sleep, debate, propose, or discuss. They just slam 24/7. I googled her to verify the spelling on her name and the first headline was: "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slams the lack of diversity in an all-white group of lawmakers who draft…

I noticed it a while ago with this particular verb too. And ever since, it made me simply have an aversion to articles with these titles, and the news sources that use them.

I wonder if there is a point of diminishing returns - engagement goes down on clickbait titles.

Probably not since they are still doing it.

Re: Slamming political rivals may be the most effective way to go viral

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Post by sjienn »

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #34
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>> political reporting is basically TMZ for boring, ugly people. Can I get that on a TShirt please ? (And yes, was it Nietscheze who says politicians are just sales people for their manifestos?)

Are they even that anymore? That seems like it would be an improvement. Now it seems like they're just cast members doing product placement for someone else's manifesto.

Well there are problems where not only no one agrees on the paths ahead, but there is no guarantee any of the paths you take will lead anywhere useful.

These kinds of problems there is always going to be manipulation. Especially if the stakes are high. As long as the chimps aren't assassinating each other its all par for the course. I am just glad there are people willing to play such a game when things are ambiguous. Cause I usually just run for the hills when things get political :)

Re: Slamming political rivals may be the most effective way to go viral

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Post by jimbokun »

agloeregrets wrote: post #24
anm89 wrote: post #8

I've noticed this hilarious thing where within the left leaning media sphere, the only verbs that Ocasio-Cortez and to a lesser degree Bernie ever engage in is "slamming". They don't eat, sleep, debate, propose, or discuss. They just slam 24/7. I googled her to verify the spelling on her name and the first headline was: "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slams the lack of diversity in an all-white group of lawmakers who draft…

That's kinda also the reverse as well. AOC ran a well-ran campaign to win her place at the table in congress. Republicans slamming her day-in and day-out made her a household name. Like, AOC should be, (with no disrespect) basically a nobody in politics, she is a 1.2 term representative. But republicans wanted a villain and boy did they make one. Beyond that, I kinda also think a critical bit in this is to understand…

Here's the cited tweet:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1408124343700369411

I don't think "slammed" is too harsh of a description.

After her critique about the Senators drafting this bill all being white:

> This is not to say that any/all bipartisan deals are bad but it’s to ask people to actually read what’s inside them instead of assume bipartisan=good

But surely, as a member of Congress, she has access to the details of this deal, and can opine on it specifically? Instead of opining on bipartisan deals as an abstraction?

Wouldn't her constituents rather know, specifically, if this deal will help them or not and whether she would vote for it, and why?

Re: Slamming political rivals may be the most effective way to go viral

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Post by azinman2 »

0-_-0 wrote: post #41
anm89 wrote: post #8

I've noticed this hilarious thing where within the left leaning media sphere, the only verbs that Ocasio-Cortez and to a lesser degree Bernie ever engage in is "slamming". They don't eat, sleep, debate, propose, or discuss. They just slam 24/7. I googled her to verify the spelling on her name and the first headline was: "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slams the lack of diversity in an all-white group of lawmakers who draft…

Hmm, let's try this in Google: "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slams": About 73,300 results "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez eats": About 109 results "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez sleeps": 1 result "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez debates": About 173 results "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez proposes": About 5,880 results "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez discusses": About 1,150 results Damn, you were right! Also surprised that AOC never sleeps.

Unless you paged thru these and manually counted yourself, do not trust Google’s number of returned results. It’s effectively a random number generator.

Source: I’ve worked for Google.

Re: Slamming political rivals may be the most effective way to go viral

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Post by mizzack »

fenderbluesjr wrote: post #60
agloeregrets wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's kinda also the reverse as well. AOC ran a well-ran campaign to win her place at the table in congress. Republicans slamming her day-in and day-out made her a household name. Like, AOC should be, (with no disrespect) basically a nobody in politics, she is a 1.2 term representative. But republicans wanted a villain and boy did they make one. Beyond that, I kinda also think a critical bit in this is to understand…

/r/murderedbyAOC is a subreddit with seemingly limitless content. I for one believe that slamming people is her shtick. She is blue team Trump

Half of the posts on that sub are neither from AOC nor "murders". Just another political spam subreddit outraging its way to the front page.

Re: Slamming political rivals may be the most effective way to go viral

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Post by jonnycomputer »

anm89 wrote: post #8

I've noticed this hilarious thing where within the left leaning media sphere, the only verbs that Ocasio-Cortez and to a lesser degree Bernie ever engage in is "slamming". They don't eat, sleep, debate, propose, or discuss. They just slam 24/7. I googled her to verify the spelling on her name and the first headline was: "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez slams the lack of diversity in an all-white group of lawmakers who draft…

Headlines generally are offenders here. Always using verbs that belong more to WWF wrestling that to politics.
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