Rally, a novel privacy-first data sharing platform

Post by grumblenum » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 3:16 PM UTC

jonathanmayer wrote: post #27

grumblenum wrote: post #10

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I read it as "we're protecting your privacy by increasing the number of people who can monitor your activity on our browser." Presumably, the users will be well-endowed and tax-advantaged institutions who could have just bought the information from data-aggregators anyway. I'm starting to see a theme of papering over their technology products with a lot of modern art and hyperbolic language. "Computer scientists, soc…

> Presumably, the users will be well-endowed and tax-advantaged institutions who could have just bought the information from data-aggregators anyway. Nope. This is an important point: the type of crowdsourced science that Rally enables is something that researchers couldn't do before. (With the exception of a very small number of teams who made massive investments in building single-purpose crowdsourcing infrastructu…

Post by bilkow » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:18 PM UTC

hosteur wrote: post #43

williamtwild wrote: post #11

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Odds are its funded by whomever is doing the study and is unrelated the browser at all.

If that is the case then it should be done as an extension. And why would Mozilla use its brand capital on this?

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:29 PM UTC

grumblenum wrote: post #51

jonathanmayer wrote: post #27

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> Presumably, the users will be well-endowed and tax-advantaged institutions who could have just bought the information from data-aggregators anyway. Nope. This is an important point: the type of crowdsourced science that Rally enables is something that researchers couldn't do before. (With the exception of a very small number of teams who made massive investments in building single-purpose crowdsourcing infrastructu…

Princeton can't buy data from aggregators? Wikipedia says they have a $26.6B endowment.

Post by jefftk » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:35 PM UTC

elliekelly wrote: post #48

thombles wrote: post #7

Whoever wrote this piece is way too close to... whatever it is Mozilla is doing here. There seems to be an assumption that users will be gleeful to throw their data at legitimate researchers from legitimate institutions doing legitimate work. What "data"? Browsing history? Identity? Something else? Why? What's in it for them? Since when was giving our data to third parties a good idea? There is literally no motivatio…

> privacy-preserving data collection system I hate this. Viscerally. Why, why, WHY does every “privacy first” system, platform, whatever, start with the presumption that some people should get your data and it’s just a matter of vetting the “good” groups from the “bad” groups. No. That isn’t privacy. No one should get my data. And it’s ridiculous that all of these companies try to position their data grabbing project…

Post by 9wzYQbTYsAIc » Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:39 PM UTC

m0ngr31 wrote: post #46

smitty1e wrote: post #5

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But if your knowledge tree falls in the forest, and no one hears of it, then how do the data sound? Somewhere between hermit-style hoarding and totally wide open there may be a collaborative sweet spot.

Why? Seems to me I get absolutely nothing from this other than a wink from Mozilla that my data can't identify me.